Sokomine reports: no, this maze is not fun. ... #6611

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yourland-report · 2024-04-03T00:10:29Z

yourland-report commented

2024-04-03 00:10:29 +00:00

Sokomine reports a bug:

no, this maze is not fun.

Player position:

{
	x = 2043.1989746094,
	y = 22.5,
	z = 1151.8000488281
}

Player look:

{
	x = 0.20958304405212,
	y = -0.018324930220842,
	z = -0.97761917114258
}

Player information:

{
	connection_uptime = 1015,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	state = "Active",
	minor = 9,
	max_rtt = 9.0159997940063,
	major = 5,
	lang_code = "",
	version_string = "5.9.0-dev-3aba95562-dirty",
	formspec_version = 7,
	ip_version = 6,
	protocol_version = 42,
	min_rtt = 0.01799999922514,
	avg_rtt = 0.019999999552965,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 8.7919998168945,
	avg_jitter = 0
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		["signslib:pos"] = "(2183,22,1163)",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		inflicted_damage = "6473642",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		died = "53",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1",
		crafted = "748666",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"3d_armor:helmet_rainbow 1 112\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 112\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_rainbow 1 112\", \"3d_armor:leggings_rainbow 1 112\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 280\"}",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1617905120",
		xp = "2360827",
		hud_state = "on",
		placed_nodes = "354936",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "623",
		jointime = "1617905120",
		bitten = "0",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_heal\"] = 1707543358, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"y\"] = 53, [\"z\"] = 1014, [\"x\"] = 4039}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1699735919}",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "0",
		partychat = "main",
		played_time = "17865381",
		digged_nodes = "2077916",
		repellant = "0",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1",
		punch_count = "307527",
		["ethereal:fly_timer"] = "-99",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1712102033",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.65032e+09",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "5",
		["stamina:level"] = "20"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = pOE2WxRrF1C0mBdEJXNMuPULOTkl2o0w

Profiler save:

profile-20240403T001028.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 4d 19h 33min 36s | max lag: 0.634s | clients (19/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Azelf, baby-light-fury, Bailiff, crankyape, daydream, flux, Francisco1955, Iluvcuukie, JinnyC, Joelchacko, LeetPeet, LockePickens, Oakenshield, Service, Sokomine, Squawk, Tinkerbot, WoS

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 2043 23 1152

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction pOE2WxRrF1C0mBdEJXNMuPULOTkl2o0w D2691E 2043 23 1152

Sokomine reports a bug: > no, this maze is not fun. Player position: ``` { x = 2043.1989746094, y = 22.5, z = 1151.8000488281 } ``` Player look: ``` { x = 0.20958304405212, y = -0.018324930220842, z = -0.97761917114258 } ``` Player information: ``` { connection_uptime = 1015, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, state = "Active", minor = 9, max_rtt = 9.0159997940063, major = 5, lang_code = "", version_string = "5.9.0-dev-3aba95562-dirty", formspec_version = 7, ip_version = 6, protocol_version = 42, min_rtt = 0.01799999922514, avg_rtt = 0.019999999552965, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 8.7919998168945, avg_jitter = 0 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { ["signslib:pos"] = "(2183,22,1163)", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", inflicted_damage = "6473642", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", died = "53", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1", crafted = "748666", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"3d_armor:helmet_rainbow 1 112\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 112\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_rainbow 1 112\", \"3d_armor:leggings_rainbow 1 112\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 280\"}", yl_commons_player_created = "1617905120", xp = "2360827", hud_state = "on", placed_nodes = "354936", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", yl_commons_thankyou = "623", jointime = "1617905120", bitten = "0", yl_church = "return {[\"last_heal\"] = 1707543358, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"y\"] = 53, [\"z\"] = 1014, [\"x\"] = 4039}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1699735919}", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "0", partychat = "main", played_time = "17865381", digged_nodes = "2077916", repellant = "0", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1", punch_count = "307527", ["ethereal:fly_timer"] = "-99", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", yl_commons_player_joined = "1712102033", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.65032e+09", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "5", ["stamina:level"] = "20" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = pOE2WxRrF1C0mBdEJXNMuPULOTkl2o0w ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20240403T001028.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 4d 19h 33min 36s | max lag: 0.634s | clients (19/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Azelf, baby-light-fury, Bailiff, crankyape, daydream, flux, Francisco1955, Iluvcuukie, JinnyC, Joelchacko, LeetPeet, LockePickens, Oakenshield, Service, Sokomine, Squawk, Tinkerbot, WoS ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 2043 23 1152 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction pOE2WxRrF1C0mBdEJXNMuPULOTkl2o0w D2691E 2043 23 1152 ```

AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2024-04-03 00:10:29 +00:00

flux added the

1. kind/balancing

label 2024-04-03 00:15:49 +00:00

flux commented

2024-04-03 00:16:36 +00:00

honestly, i have no more or less trouble with the mazes this year than any other year. but i enjoy doing them.

rewired_X commented

2024-04-03 00:34:19 +00:00

some mazes are harder than others but even if i end up abandoning it i still enjoy at least trying

AzelfYL commented

2024-04-03 01:01:38 +00:00

This problem seems universally to stem from the invis mazes, and yeah they can really, REALLY suck, especially since your final reward is kinda underwhelmed. "At least I can finally talk to this stupid bunny! Now for my reward, I would like some Dragonscale Battle Armour! Yes! Mwahahahaha! Or Garlands... just as cool as my idea..."

I think the problem is that because some of the mazes are vastly more difficult, it's just not worth the time and effort to do it anymore. I think reviewing the invis maze beforehand and scrapping harder layouts or keeping those in but drastically increasing the rewards would be how its done. I don't know what happened but I personally found the 2024 mazes far less fun than the 2023 mazes. Not sure why but that's just how I feel.

This problem seems universally to stem from the invis mazes, and yeah they can really, REALLY suck, especially since your final reward is kinda underwhelmed. "At least I can finally talk to this stupid bunny! [Now for my reward, I would like some Dragonscale Battle Armour! Yes! Mwahahahaha! Or Garlands... just as cool as my idea...](https://youtu.be/mO3Ary5Ubz0?t=545)" I think the problem is that because some of the mazes are vastly more difficult, it's just not worth the time and effort to do it anymore. I think reviewing the invis maze beforehand and scrapping harder layouts or keeping those in but drastically increasing the rewards would be how its done. I don't know what happened but I personally found the 2024 mazes far less fun than the 2023 mazes. Not sure why but that's just how I feel.

flux commented

2024-04-03 01:03:26 +00:00

it sounds like we shouldn't use the backtracking algorithm on the invisible maze. missing a junction might just be too punishing.