daydream reports: let's make a node that you get ... #6397

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yourland-report · 2024-03-05T07:30:30Z

yourland-report commented

2024-03-05 07:30:30 +00:00

daydream reports a bug:

let's make a node that you get one when you join and you can go out into wilderness and put it down and it does the /protect_this for you and gives warnings and advice too.

Player position:

{
	x = -7053.4428710938,
	y = 20,
	z = -9827.5712890625
}

Player look:

{
	x = 0.24866916239262,
	y = -0.71325045824051,
	z = 0.65531474351883
}

Player information:

{
	max_rtt = 2.9470000267029,
	protocol_version = 42,
	lang_code = "",
	minor = 8,
	ip_version = 6,
	min_rtt = 0.15700000524521,
	avg_rtt = 0.16799999773502,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 2.7799999713898,
	avg_jitter = 0.0010000020265579,
	connection_uptime = 43916,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	formspec_version = 7,
	state = "Active",
	version_string = "5.8.0",
	major = 5
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		yl_commons_thankyou = "836",
		xp = "2901238",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0",
		["hud_manager:spawnit:hud_enabled"] = "n",
		partychat = "party",
		["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "19",
		placed_nodes = "494194",
		died = "355",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1650064821",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1709579934",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\"}",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		repellant = "0",
		inflicted_damage = "9198584",
		hud_state = "on",
		hotbar_size = "16",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "21",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(2002,-30911,1487)",
		bitten = "0",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = 4166, [\"y\"] = 1, [\"z\"] = 1755}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1673944229, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1709604079}",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.65235e+09",
		played_time = "37969491",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "8",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"petz:prince_crown 1 4400\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 352\", \"petz:silk_dress_coat 1 4400\", \"3d_armor:leggings_nether 1 1760\", \"nether_mobs:dragon_boots 1 880\", \"\"}",
		["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"speed\"] = 2, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"gravity\"] = 1, [\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false}",
		jointime = "1650064821",
		["stamina:level"] = "4",
		digged_nodes = "2796309",
		punch_count = "527707",
		crafted = "223002",
		xp_redo_hud_color = "0xFFC001"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = tbUH0MwPqlmw2L1eV0gBKAEOq7QMjYGC

Profiler save:

profile-20240305T073030.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 1d 17h 10min 13s | max lag: 0.606s | clients (13/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Babr, Bailiff, Craftsman, DanteLeo, daydream, Deathwing, flux, JinnyC, Murmel, Service, testmineweirdo, whosit

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz -7053 20 -9828

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction tbUH0MwPqlmw2L1eV0gBKAEOq7QMjYGC D2691E -7053 20 -9828

daydream reports a bug: > let's make a node that you get one when you join and you can go out into wilderness and put it down and it does the /protect_this for you and gives warnings and advice too. Player position: ``` { x = -7053.4428710938, y = 20, z = -9827.5712890625 } ``` Player look: ``` { x = 0.24866916239262, y = -0.71325045824051, z = 0.65531474351883 } ``` Player information: ``` { max_rtt = 2.9470000267029, protocol_version = 42, lang_code = "", minor = 8, ip_version = 6, min_rtt = 0.15700000524521, avg_rtt = 0.16799999773502, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 2.7799999713898, avg_jitter = 0.0010000020265579, connection_uptime = 43916, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, formspec_version = 7, state = "Active", version_string = "5.8.0", major = 5 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { yl_commons_thankyou = "836", xp = "2901238", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0", ["hud_manager:spawnit:hud_enabled"] = "n", partychat = "party", ["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "19", placed_nodes = "494194", died = "355", yl_commons_player_created = "1650064821", yl_commons_player_joined = "1709579934", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\"}", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", repellant = "0", inflicted_damage = "9198584", hud_state = "on", hotbar_size = "16", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "21", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", ["signslib:pos"] = "(2002,-30911,1487)", bitten = "0", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = 4166, [\"y\"] = 1, [\"z\"] = 1755}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1673944229, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1709604079}", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.65235e+09", played_time = "37969491", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "8", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"petz:prince_crown 1 4400\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 352\", \"petz:silk_dress_coat 1 4400\", \"3d_armor:leggings_nether 1 1760\", \"nether_mobs:dragon_boots 1 880\", \"\"}", ["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"speed\"] = 2, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"gravity\"] = 1, [\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false}", jointime = "1650064821", ["stamina:level"] = "4", digged_nodes = "2796309", punch_count = "527707", crafted = "223002", xp_redo_hud_color = "0xFFC001" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = tbUH0MwPqlmw2L1eV0gBKAEOq7QMjYGC ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20240305T073030.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 1d 17h 10min 13s | max lag: 0.606s | clients (13/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Babr, Bailiff, Craftsman, DanteLeo, daydream, Deathwing, flux, JinnyC, Murmel, Service, testmineweirdo, whosit ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz -7053 20 -9828 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction tbUH0MwPqlmw2L1eV0gBKAEOq7QMjYGC D2691E -7053 20 -9828 ```

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AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2024-03-05 07:30:30 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken added the

1. kind/enhancement

label 2024-03-06 07:15:58 +00:00

flux commented

2024-03-08 03:09:20 +00:00

this exists: https://content.minetest.net/packages/cheapie/areasprotector/

we had it on blocky survival, and that's how i got introduced to the idea of protection. i don't miss it in terms of how i interact with protection these days, but it was certainly useful for starting players.

pro: it's meant to integrate naturally with the areas mod that we already use.

cons: it had some bugs. block/area ID desyncs were possible, allowing people to occasionally delete other players areas. it allowed players to subvert some rules about protection areas (though those issues might all be fixed now?).

integration: by default there's 2 sizes of protection areas, neither of which align to /protect_this. it also doesn't give the advice and warnings that are requested in the bug report.

overall: worth testing

this exists: https://content.minetest.net/packages/cheapie/areasprotector/ we had it on blocky survival, and that's how i got introduced to the idea of protection. i don't miss it in terms of how i interact with protection these days, but it was certainly useful for starting players. pro: it's meant to integrate naturally with the areas mod that we already use. cons: it had some bugs. block/area ID desyncs were possible, allowing people to occasionally delete other players areas. it allowed players to subvert some rules about protection areas (though those issues might all be fixed now?). integration: by default there's 2 sizes of protection areas, neither of which align to `/protect_this`. it also doesn't give the advice and warnings that are requested in the bug report. overall: worth testing

whosit commented

2024-03-08 07:53:42 +00:00

cons: it had some bugs. block/area ID desyncs were possible, allowing people to occasionally delete other players areas. it allowed players to subvert some rules about protection areas (though those issues might all be fixed now?).

It just stores area id in block's meta, and when block is dug, calls areas:remove(id). Since ids are reused, you can place these blocks, remove areas via command, then wait for people create new areas and remove theirs.

Maybe areas could have a timestamp or something (although it's uniqueness would depend on timer resolution and frequency of area creation/removal...)

> cons: it had some bugs. block/area ID desyncs were possible, allowing people to occasionally delete other players areas. it allowed players to subvert some rules about protection areas (though those issues might all be fixed now?). It just stores area id in block's meta, and when block is dug, calls `areas:remove(id)`. Since ids are reused, you can place these blocks, remove areas via command, then wait for people create new areas and remove theirs. Maybe areas could have a timestamp or something (although it's uniqueness would depend on timer resolution and frequency of area creation/removal...)

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2024-03-08 23:40:06 +00:00

We could just make a new item that, when placed, executes protect_this. Should be easier to integrate than changing the mod in question.

We could just make a new item that, when placed, executes `protect_this`. Should be easier to integrate than changing the mod in question.

flux commented

2024-03-09 22:11:33 +00:00

another con of areasprotector: it requires a steel pick to break the node, meaning that new players couldn't move the area until they'd mined for a while.

another pro: if you punched the node, it would show you the outline of the area (similar to a WE area outline)

another con of areasprotector: it requires a steel pick to break the node, meaning that new players couldn't move the area until they'd mined for a while. another pro: if you punched the node, it would show you the outline of the area (similar to a WE area outline)

DragonWrangler commented

2024-03-09 23:42:04 +00:00

another con of areasprotector: it requires a steel pick to break the node, meaning that new players couldn't move the area until they'd mined for a while.

That should be an easy fix though

> another con of areasprotector: it requires a steel pick to break the node, meaning that new players couldn't move the area until they'd mined for a while. That should be an easy fix though

Jammy commented

2024-03-09 23:48:32 +00:00

Perhaps name it "The Miocene Totem"

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AliasAlreadyTaken added the

2. prio/good first issue

3. source/art

4. step/approved

labels 2024-03-10 14:25:59 +00:00

tour commented

2024-03-10 21:24:25 +00:00

Wouldn't such a block be more or less a feature dupe of the markers (exept that you have to place two markers)...

Before joining YL I have tested some servers with these protection blocks enabled... I'm not really a fan of those (It was actually the absence of these mods which showed me how much more one can do with areas)...

I'd prefer a tool that guides you through the whole process (so you can protect multiple areas with it).

If no one else steps foreward, I can imagine to implement this.

Might be the wrong place to ask, but what are the oldest clients YL aims to support (eg. what's the formspec_version such a mod should work with?)

Wouldn't such a block be more or less a feature dupe of the markers (exept that you have to place two markers)... Before joining YL I have tested some servers with these protection blocks enabled... I'm not really a fan of those (It was actually the absence of these mods which showed me how much more one can do with areas)... I'd prefer a tool that guides you through the whole process (so you can protect multiple areas with it). --- If no one else steps foreward, I can imagine to implement this. Might be the wrong place to ask, but what are the oldest clients YL aims to support (eg. what's the formspec_version such a mod should work with?)

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whosit commented

2024-03-10 21:33:48 +00:00

I'd prefer a tool that guides you through the whole process (so you can protect multiple areas with it).

Some GUI solution could be nice, or integration into unified inventory (or our variation of it).
Also, showing borders with particles (that could be sent to specific player only) would make it even better.

> I'd prefer a tool that guides you through the whole process (so you can protect multiple areas with it). Some GUI solution could be nice, or integration into unified inventory (or our variation of it). Also, showing borders with particles (that could be sent to specific player only) would make it even better.

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DragonWrangler commented

2024-03-11 12:33:57 +00:00

Perhaps name it "The Miocene Totem"

How does that name have anything to do with adding a block to help with area protection ?

> Perhaps name it "The Miocene Totem" How does that name have anything to do with adding a block to help with area protection ?

daydream commented

2024-03-12 02:13:51 +00:00

I've seen markers used improperly so many times but I love how markers work... for newbies the best part of markers is easily choosing y+/y- values - so nice and simple... but the whole protection this is just a lot for newbies... honestly tho? If someone has some knowledge they do understand it within a day and helping people that play for under a day really isn't worth our time... have seen such things in other games tho... the thing is if you wanna move it would remove it also - and THAT is key for me - because while everyone tells newbies how to /protect_this I rarely see anyone mention /remove_area

Jammy commented

2024-03-14 14:31:40 +00:00

How does that name have anything to do with adding a block to help with area protection ?

Miocenes can protect things right? Also, they have things to do with our lore.

> How does that name have anything to do with adding a block to help with area protection ? Miocenes can protect things right? Also, they have things to do with our lore.

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AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2024-03-14 14:32:47 +00:00

A new player does not know anything about our lore. Such an item needs an unmistakable name that blatantly says what it does.

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tour commented

2024-03-15 22:52:04 +00:00

started writing a GUI for the areas mod (https://codeberg.org/tour-ist/areas-gui) Not too much to see there yet, I will call here once I think this is in a state where I need testers.

If I can get access to yl_areas_addons, I'll try to build up an optional dependency and add yl features (too close warnings, area upvote, ...) too.

started writing a GUI for the areas mod (https://codeberg.org/tour-ist/areas-gui) Not too much to see there yet, I will call here once I think this is in a state where I need testers. If I can get access to yl_areas_addons, I'll try to build up an optional dependency and add yl features (too close warnings, area upvote, ...) too.

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tour referenced this issue

2024-03-15 23:42:23 +00:00

Areas Rework #6497

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