Azelf reports: Lava swim speed seems a lot sl ... #6328

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yourland-report · 2024-02-22T04:19:24Z

yourland-report commented

2024-02-22 04:19:24 +00:00

Azelf reports a bug:

Lava swim speed seems a lot slower now

Player position:

{
	y = 30181.5,
	z = 1341.0059814453,
	x = 2094.2009277344
}

Player look:

{
	y = 0.91425395011902,
	z = 0.39573612809181,
	x = 0.086791023612022
}

Player information:

{
	formspec_version = 7,
	ip_version = 6,
	min_rtt = 0.17000000178814,
	avg_rtt = 0.17200000584126,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 2.7610001564026,
	avg_jitter = 0,
	connection_uptime = 2329,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	minor = 8,
	protocol_version = 42,
	major = 5,
	lang_code = "",
	state = "Active",
	version_string = "5.8.0",
	max_rtt = 2.9340000152588
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		yl_commons_player_created = "1659363683",
		repellant = "0",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "105",
		xp = "1276643",
		["stamina:level"] = "20",
		inflicted_damage = "5459208",
		digged_nodes = "931162",
		placed_nodes = "411972",
		died = "124",
		crafted = "729319",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1708573252",
		jointime = "1659363683",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(-1025,139,4640)",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:leggings_rainbow 1 19816\", \"nether_mobs:dragon_boots 1 3460\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 19816\", \"3d_armor:helmet_rainbow 1 19816\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_rainbow 1 19816\", \"\"}",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "11",
		bitten = "0",
		partychat = "party",
		punch_count = "257590",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "45.5",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death_portal\"] = 1708313463, [\"last_heal\"] = 1707543932, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = -1046, [\"y\"] = 138, [\"z\"] = 4618}}",
		played_time = "6508945",
		hud_state = "on",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.67602e+09"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = ieKZllNYbAAbBrJFYRJ1NCZta2p8rTGv

Profiler save:

profile-20240222T041924.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 9h 32min 2s | max lag: 0.296s | clients (9/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Azelf, Bailiff, daydream, flux, jackofthebean000, Service, Sokomine, testmineweirdo

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 2094 30182 1341

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction ieKZllNYbAAbBrJFYRJ1NCZta2p8rTGv D2691E 2094 30182 1341

Azelf reports a bug: > Lava swim speed seems a lot slower now Player position: ``` { y = 30181.5, z = 1341.0059814453, x = 2094.2009277344 } ``` Player look: ``` { y = 0.91425395011902, z = 0.39573612809181, x = 0.086791023612022 } ``` Player information: ``` { formspec_version = 7, ip_version = 6, min_rtt = 0.17000000178814, avg_rtt = 0.17200000584126, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 2.7610001564026, avg_jitter = 0, connection_uptime = 2329, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, minor = 8, protocol_version = 42, major = 5, lang_code = "", state = "Active", version_string = "5.8.0", max_rtt = 2.9340000152588 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { yl_commons_player_created = "1659363683", repellant = "0", yl_commons_thankyou = "105", xp = "1276643", ["stamina:level"] = "20", inflicted_damage = "5459208", digged_nodes = "931162", placed_nodes = "411972", died = "124", crafted = "729319", yl_commons_player_joined = "1708573252", jointime = "1659363683", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", ["signslib:pos"] = "(-1025,139,4640)", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:leggings_rainbow 1 19816\", \"nether_mobs:dragon_boots 1 3460\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 19816\", \"3d_armor:helmet_rainbow 1 19816\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_rainbow 1 19816\", \"\"}", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "11", bitten = "0", partychat = "party", punch_count = "257590", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "45.5", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death_portal\"] = 1708313463, [\"last_heal\"] = 1707543932, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = -1046, [\"y\"] = 138, [\"z\"] = 4618}}", played_time = "6508945", hud_state = "on", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.67602e+09" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = ieKZllNYbAAbBrJFYRJ1NCZta2p8rTGv ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20240222T041924.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 9h 32min 2s | max lag: 0.296s | clients (9/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Azelf, Bailiff, daydream, flux, jackofthebean000, Service, Sokomine, testmineweirdo ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 2094 30182 1341 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction ieKZllNYbAAbBrJFYRJ1NCZta2p8rTGv D2691E 2094 30182 1341 ```

AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2024-02-22 04:19:24 +00:00

AzelfYL commented

2024-02-22 15:11:16 +00:00

Swimming in lava seems to be a lot slower now - more like swimming through mime glue. Minetest13 and Lupercus were also able to notice a major difference.

AliasAlreadyTaken added the

4. step/needs confirmation

label 2024-02-22 17:28:52 +00:00

flux commented

2024-02-22 19:51:04 +00:00

probably due to #4596, i'll do some tests to see exactly how much slower it is

whosit commented

2024-02-22 19:58:29 +00:00

IRL lava is pretty thick though... and not even thickness, you probably won't be able to really dive into it, since buoyancy will keep you mostly out of it :)

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2024-02-22 20:11:57 +00:00

Wasn't there an issue where we note things we intend to break? Among those are making swimming slower and swimming in lava much slower, also damage-ticking a protective armour in lava.

Currently fire-resisting armour allows extensive dives. I'd rather have people protected from falling in and getting out ASAP instead.

Wasn't there an issue where we note things we intend to break? Among those are making swimming slower and swimming in lava much slower, also damage-ticking a protective armour in lava. Currently fire-resisting armour allows extensive dives. I'd rather have people protected from falling in and getting out ASAP instead.

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flux commented

2024-02-22 20:24:47 +00:00

action	normal speed	current speed	ratio
walk	4.00	4.00	1.00
run	7.20	7.00	0.97
walk w/ boots	8.0	7.67	0.96
run w/ boots	14.40	12.19	0.85
walk in water	2.76	2.75	1.0
run in water	6.80	6.59	0.97
walk w/ boots in water	7.62	7.25	0.95
run w/ boots in water	14.1	11.77	0.83
walk in lava	0.82	0.82	1.0
run in lava	1.48	1.44	0.97
walk w/ boots in lava	1.64	1.57	0.96
run w/ boots in lava	2.95	2.50	0.85

the speed decrease seems to be consistent w/ movement in other mediums.

| action | normal speed | current speed | ratio | | - | - | - | - | | walk | 4.00 | 4.00 | 1.00 | | run | 7.20 | 7.00 | 0.97 | | walk w/ boots | 8.0 | 7.67 | 0.96 | | run w/ boots |14.40 | 12.19 | 0.85 | | walk in water | 2.76 | 2.75 | 1.0 | | run in water | 6.80 | 6.59 | 0.97 | | walk w/ boots in water | 7.62 | 7.25 | 0.95 | | run w/ boots in water | 14.1 | 11.77 | 0.83 | | walk in lava | 0.82 | 0.82 | 1.0 | | run in lava | 1.48 | 1.44 | 0.97 | | walk w/ boots in lava | 1.64 | 1.57 | 0.96 | | run w/ boots in lava | 2.95 | 2.50 | 0.85 | the speed decrease seems to be consistent w/ movement in other mediums.

AzelfYL commented

2024-02-22 23:56:31 +00:00

I am very very certain the normal speed isn't that low. I remember it used to be like swimming in water.

I am very very certain the normal speed isn't *that* low. I remember it used to be like swimming in water.

flux commented

2024-02-23 00:09:15 +00:00

I am very very certain the normal speed isn't that low. I remember it used to be like swimming in lava.

it's possible it was higher with some earlier version of minetest, i know fluid mechanics were reworked with minetest 5.0, they could have been tweaked again recently. but those are empirical values i tested w/ a vanilla mod set.

> I am very very certain the normal speed isn't *that* low. I remember it used to be like swimming in lava. it's possible it was higher with some earlier version of minetest, i know fluid mechanics were reworked with minetest 5.0, they could have been tweaked again recently. but those are empirical values i tested w/ a vanilla mod set.

flux referenced this issue

2024-03-09 02:46:49 +00:00

Werewolf fall damage #4596

AspireMint commented

2024-03-27 18:19:00 +00:00

Yes, lava swim is slower for me too. I remember i could swim faster than other player in lava - maybe also depends on client version?
BUT werewolfs can still swim fast in lava! 🙂

Yes, lava swim is slower for me too. I remember i could swim faster than other player in lava - maybe also depends on client version? BUT werewolfs can still swim fast in lava! 🙂

flux added

1. kind/bug

1. kind/balancing

5. result/cannot reproduce

and removed

4. step/needs confirmation

labels 2024-03-28 01:25:27 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken was unassigned by flux

2024-03-28 01:25:31 +00:00

flux commented

2024-03-28 01:28:29 +00:00

closing this. lava swim speed has been different than water swim speed since i started playing minetest - 0.4.17 (or maybe 0.4.16?). empirically it's currently not that much slower than before #4596. it doesn't seem different to me and i spent quite a lot of time swimming in lava in the nether years ago when i didn't care as much about losing XP from death.

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flux closed this issue

2024-03-28 01:28:29 +00:00

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