Sokomine reports: flight controller needed for t ... #6070

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yourland-report · 2024-01-25T02:28:54Z

yourland-report commented

2024-01-25 02:28:54 +00:00

Sokomine reports a bug:

flight controller needed for this much air traffic!

Player position:

{
	x = 2432.7631835938,
	y = -0.45300000905991,
	z = 1306.8059082031
}

Player look:

{
	x = 0.84818184375763,
	y = 0.19953896105289,
	z = 0.49068486690521
}

Player information:

{
	protocol_version = 42,
	minor = 9,
	min_rtt = 0.01799999922514,
	avg_rtt = 0.019999999552965,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 13.998000144958,
	lang_code = "",
	connection_uptime = 338,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	major = 5,
	version_string = "5.9.0-dev-4468813d4-dirty",
	state = "Active",
	ip_version = 6,
	avg_jitter = 0,
	max_rtt = 14.039999961853,
	formspec_version = 7
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		punch_count = "305688",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "2",
		inflicted_damage = "6433316",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"3d_armor:helmet_rainbow 1 8\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 8\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_rainbow 1 8\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 20\", \"3d_armor:leggings_rainbow 1 8\"}",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1",
		["ethereal:fly_timer"] = "-99",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(1979,18,1184)",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "5",
		digged_nodes = "2012228",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "584",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = 1014, [\"x\"] = 4039, [\"y\"] = 53}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1698267580, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1699735919}",
		played_time = "16839127",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1617905120",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1706149416",
		died = "53",
		crafted = "647065",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"water_life:croc_bag\"}",
		hud_state = "on",
		placed_nodes = "338694",
		xp = "2295413",
		jointime = "1617905120",
		bitten = "0",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1",
		partychat = "main",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.65032e+09",
		["stamina:level"] = "10",
		repellant = "0",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = TDHfyqY5MnPNzqJvkIX0KchHZRt4uiUC

Profiler save:

profile-20240125T022854.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 7d 12h 45min 4s | max lag: 1.22s | clients (18/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Aliza, Bailiff, BLuOXide, Brabenec, daydream, flux, HorusDamocles, jackofthebean000, Lupercus, mahou, Penelopee, poppyasdan, Service, Sokomine, STEALTH, tagtraum, taonza12

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 2433 -0 1307

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction TDHfyqY5MnPNzqJvkIX0KchHZRt4uiUC D2691E 2433 -0 1307

Sokomine reports a bug: > flight controller needed for this much air traffic! Player position: ``` { x = 2432.7631835938, y = -0.45300000905991, z = 1306.8059082031 } ``` Player look: ``` { x = 0.84818184375763, y = 0.19953896105289, z = 0.49068486690521 } ``` Player information: ``` { protocol_version = 42, minor = 9, min_rtt = 0.01799999922514, avg_rtt = 0.019999999552965, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 13.998000144958, lang_code = "", connection_uptime = 338, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, major = 5, version_string = "5.9.0-dev-4468813d4-dirty", state = "Active", ip_version = 6, avg_jitter = 0, max_rtt = 14.039999961853, formspec_version = 7 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { punch_count = "305688", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "2", inflicted_damage = "6433316", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"3d_armor:helmet_rainbow 1 8\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 8\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_rainbow 1 8\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 20\", \"3d_armor:leggings_rainbow 1 8\"}", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1", ["ethereal:fly_timer"] = "-99", ["signslib:pos"] = "(1979,18,1184)", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "5", digged_nodes = "2012228", yl_commons_thankyou = "584", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = 1014, [\"x\"] = 4039, [\"y\"] = 53}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1698267580, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1699735919}", played_time = "16839127", yl_commons_player_created = "1617905120", yl_commons_player_joined = "1706149416", died = "53", crafted = "647065", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"water_life:croc_bag\"}", hud_state = "on", placed_nodes = "338694", xp = "2295413", jointime = "1617905120", bitten = "0", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1", partychat = "main", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.65032e+09", ["stamina:level"] = "10", repellant = "0", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = TDHfyqY5MnPNzqJvkIX0KchHZRt4uiUC ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20240125T022854.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 7d 12h 45min 4s | max lag: 1.22s | clients (18/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Aliza, Bailiff, BLuOXide, Brabenec, daydream, flux, HorusDamocles, jackofthebean000, Lupercus, mahou, Penelopee, poppyasdan, Service, Sokomine, STEALTH, tagtraum, taonza12 ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 2433 -0 1307 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction TDHfyqY5MnPNzqJvkIX0KchHZRt4uiUC D2691E 2433 -0 1307 ```

AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2024-01-25 02:28:54 +00:00

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flux commented

2024-01-25 04:19:35 +00:00

@Sokomine what kind of air traffic? i don't understand this at all.

Sokomine was assigned by flux

2024-01-25 04:19:43 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2024-01-25 04:42:49 +00:00

Too many flying mobs maybe? I don#t understand either :D

meme?

Too many flying mobs maybe? I don#t understand either :D meme?

whosit commented

2024-01-25 04:48:46 +00:00

Screens from that position:

screenshot_20240125_074805.png

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whosit commented

2024-01-25 04:52:01 +00:00

Also, couple of random screens, one from main, and one from test:

Also, couple of random screens, one from main, and one from test: ![screenshot_20240121_203719](/attachments/5631fa84-f7e7-4d9c-8ba4-3da4421a7c23) ![screenshot_20240124_180040](/attachments/186b3dba-c62f-4f04-a63f-5c21b1fea3e8)

screenshot_20240121_203719.png

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flux commented

2024-01-25 05:02:59 +00:00

most (or all?) of these mobs already have spawn limiters which should prevent too many from clumping up, even if they get unloaded. maybe we should add some a new limiter to limit the total number of flying untamed mobs in a volume?

whosit commented

2024-01-25 05:46:01 +00:00

Seems like it's the same "player stays too long in one place and mobs just walk off the edge of loaded mapblock and new ones spawn". Because all screens here are from places near people's homes.
Maybe it's remnant of previous spawnit versions? (did you update it already?). Because on test server, when I was swimming in the ocean full of mobs (flying, but also many dolphins and whales) - /spawnit_hud was showing that only 5 mobs spawned since server start.

Seems like it's the same "player stays too long in one place and mobs just walk off the edge of loaded mapblock and new ones spawn". Because all screens here are from places near people's homes. Maybe it's remnant of previous spawnit versions? (did you update it already?). Because on test server, when I was swimming in the ocean full of mobs (flying, but also many dolphins and whales) - /spawnit_hud was showing that only 5 mobs spawned since server start.

rewired_X commented

2024-01-25 13:27:03 +00:00

where's air traffic control people when you need them

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whosit commented

2024-01-25 13:50:24 +00:00

I suggest we add something like Quetzalcoatlus, that will spawn very rarely, but will eat everything else that flies without stopping X)

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Sokomine commented

2024-01-25 14:47:05 +00:00

Most of it was a joke. Yet the problem as such is real.

It's just too many flying mobs - bats, moths, doves, butterflies, parrots, flamingos etc. And what's worse: They hang in the air when you approach and only slowly begin moving. That breaks immersion.

In the past, seagulls had that problem as well, and I applied /moevex in many cases and removed surplus ones. Since some weeks/months(?) they have imporved a lot and neither appear in such large quantities nor do they fly in awkward ways. Seagulls (Moeve in german, thus /moevex) turned into very elegant fliers who do a very good job as birds now. Perhaps petz can likewise learn to handle the air environment.

Most of it was a joke. Yet the problem as such is real. It's just too many flying mobs - bats, moths, doves, butterflies, parrots, flamingos etc. And what's worse: They hang in the air when you approach and only slowly begin moving. That breaks immersion. In the past, seagulls had that problem as well, and I applied /moevex in many cases and removed surplus ones. Since some weeks/months(?) they have imporved a lot and neither appear in such large quantities nor do they fly in awkward ways. Seagulls (Moeve in german, thus /moevex) turned into very elegant fliers who do a very good job as birds now. Perhaps petz can likewise learn to handle the air environment.

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2024-01-25 23:17:52 +00:00

Currently except for the lifetimer we have no mechanic that would cut down on flying creatures. Does the dragon eat them? Has that ever been observed?

Solution may be either not serializing them (who can remember what seagull was there anyways) or adding a predator.

The basic issue is that they initialize very late and give a "suspended in air" impression.

Currently except for the lifetimer we have no mechanic that would cut down on flying creatures. Does the dragon eat them? Has that ever been observed? Solution may be either not serializing them (who can remember what seagull was there anyways) or adding a predator. The basic issue is that they initialize very late and give a "suspended in air" impression.

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Boot commented

2024-01-26 16:10:25 +00:00

Does the dragon eat them?

That would lead straight to a dragon farm.

Solution may be ... adding a predator

An eagle or a raven would be nice.
But seagulls are also birds of prey and could eat anything up to duck size.
Or dolphins will grab anything that comes within 4 blocks of the ocean surface.

> Does the dragon eat them? That would lead straight to a dragon farm. > Solution may be ... adding a predator An eagle or a raven would be nice. But seagulls are also birds of prey and could eat anything up to duck size. Or dolphins will grab anything that comes within 4 blocks of the ocean surface.

AzelfYL commented

2024-01-27 03:52:36 +00:00

That would lead straight to a dragon farm.

~~Hey, if it's like the dragon at the miocene moves, it's not a problem. If they don't cooperate, free dragonscales for everyone~~

> That would lead straight to a dragon farm. ~~Hey, if it's like the dragon at the miocene moves, it's not a problem. If they don't cooperate, free dragonscales for everyone~~

Sokomine commented

2024-01-27 16:56:57 +00:00

The poor seagulls are already eaten by crocs. But they're no longer the problem! Seagulls evolved from beeing a nuiscance (they shamefully despawned when you looked close at a flying seagull hovering unmovingly above a block on land in a corner) to very elegant flyers. I have no more problems with seagulls! They're fine. It's petz that hang in the air en masse and thus look very odd. /moevex needs to be renamed to /batex or something else (/flypetex).

If the dragon feeds on petz, he certainly has more than enough to eat. With such a huge food supply we ought to see more dragons! And the egg ought to hatch :-)

The poor seagulls are already eaten by crocs. But they're no longer the problem! Seagulls evolved from beeing a nuiscance (they shamefully despawned when you looked close at a flying seagull hovering unmovingly above a block on land in a corner) to very elegant flyers. I have no more problems with seagulls! They're fine. It's petz that hang in the air en masse and thus look very odd. /moevex needs to be renamed to /batex or something else (/flypetex). If the dragon feeds on petz, he certainly has more than enough to eat. With such a huge food supply we ought to see more dragons! And the egg ought to hatch :-)

flux commented

2024-01-28 23:02:29 +00:00

Currently except for the lifetimer we have no mechanic that would cut down on flying creatures.

we've already got a "mob spawn limiter", which is called whenever a mob "activates". perhaps we need to lower the limit on the number of various flying mobs, and increase the radius in which the limiter is applied: https://gitea.your-land.de/your-land/yl_commons/src/branch/yl_stable/features/mob_spawn_limiter.lua

> Currently except for the lifetimer we have no mechanic that would cut down on flying creatures. we've already got a "mob spawn limiter", which is called whenever a mob "activates". perhaps we need to lower the limit on the number of various flying mobs, and increase the radius in which the limiter is applied: https://gitea.your-land.de/your-land/yl_commons/src/branch/yl_stable/features/mob_spawn_limiter.lua

Boot referenced this issue

2024-01-29 20:14:33 +00:00

Kalek reports: I am not sure if this is a bug ... #6133

Sokomine commented

2024-01-29 23:58:30 +00:00

Maybe the petz flying creatures can learn from the seagulls (water_life)? Those used to be a big problem but no longer are. They work fine now.

whosit commented

2024-02-03 19:58:17 +00:00

Looks like we need a traffic controller too:

this is near place where one-two players spend lots of time...

Looks like we need a traffic controller too: ![screenshot_20240203_190913](/attachments/81690f4d-9696-4ba0-9bf3-a567a28d41fe) this is near place where one-two players spend lots of time...

screenshot_20240203_190913.png

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DragonWrangler commented

2024-02-03 22:00:21 +00:00

this is near place where one-two players spend lots of time...

wow

> this is near place where one-two players spend lots of time... wow

flux commented

2024-02-03 23:48:33 +00:00

with the more vigorous petz culling in c37fee4d81, these should thin themselves out in the future.

with the more vigorous petz culling in https://gitea.your-land.de/your-land/yl_commons/commit/c37fee4d81b7bdeca080669131aa52adc52ca3d0, these should thin themselves out in the future.

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flux referenced this issue

2024-03-08 00:55:43 +00:00

Too many animals lead to overgrazing ... #6359

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flux commented

2024-03-29 22:49:23 +00:00

air traffic and other petz density issues are greatly reduced, though they still do that annoying thing where they hang in the air for 15 seconds before they start moving.

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2024-03-29 22:49:23 +00:00

Jammy commented

2024-04-23 09:44:30 +00:00

this is near place where one-two players spend lots of time...

Back then when me and Uhhh was working together on a village, that happened. We solved it with lava buckets.

> this is near place where one-two players spend lots of time... Back then when me and Uhhh was working together on a village, that happened. We solved it with lava buckets.

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