Jammy reports: whips were overpowered ... #5765

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opened 2023-12-20 23:47:53 +00:00 by yourland-report · 7 comments

Jammy reports a bug:

whips were overpowered

Player position:

{
	z = 1161.5989990234,
	x = 2002.8079833984,
	y = 15
}

Player look:

{
	z = 0.91089415550232,
	x = -0.22339990735054,
	y = -0.34693562984467
}

Player information:

{
	major = 5,
	min_rtt = 0.17800000309944,
	avg_rtt = 0.35299998521805,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 4.3940000534058,
	avg_jitter = 0.13899998366833,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	protocol_version = 42,
	minor = 7,
	formspec_version = 6,
	state = "Active",
	lang_code = "zh_CN",
	ip_version = 6,
	max_rtt = 4.625,
	connection_uptime = 2222,
	version_string = "5.7.0"
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		played_time = "728230",
		digged_nodes = "73482",
		placed_nodes = "29817",
		died = "186",
		crafted = "41811",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "79",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "12",
		partychat = "party",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1700288470",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1703113864",
		repellant = "0",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = 1128, [\"x\"] = 2299, [\"y\"] = 28806}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1700995484, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1703115998}",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(18787,33,18513)",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		["stamina:level"] = "20",
		jointime = "1700288470",
		bitten = "0",
		xp = "68590",
		hud_state = "on",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_medium\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "18",
		["ocean_build.forbidden"] = "true",
		punch_count = "9435",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		inflicted_damage = "181380",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\"}",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1702173287",
		["ambience.svol"] = "0.1",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "2"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = 4MwecaWn6R3jGxXTmDdjttLcDIOgoTY9

Profiler save:

profile-20231220T234753.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 1d 8h 52min 23s | max lag: 0.644s | clients (15/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Bailiff, betzi, Boot, Chache, DragonWrangler1, Ernle1, flux, jackofthebean000, Jammy, jet, Lupercus, poppyasdan, rheo, taonza12

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 2003 15 1162

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction 4MwecaWn6R3jGxXTmDdjttLcDIOgoTY9 D2691E 2003 15 1162
Jammy reports a bug: > whips were overpowered Player position: ``` { z = 1161.5989990234, x = 2002.8079833984, y = 15 } ``` Player look: ``` { z = 0.91089415550232, x = -0.22339990735054, y = -0.34693562984467 } ``` Player information: ``` { major = 5, min_rtt = 0.17800000309944, avg_rtt = 0.35299998521805, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 4.3940000534058, avg_jitter = 0.13899998366833, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, protocol_version = 42, minor = 7, formspec_version = 6, state = "Active", lang_code = "zh_CN", ip_version = 6, max_rtt = 4.625, connection_uptime = 2222, version_string = "5.7.0" } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { played_time = "728230", digged_nodes = "73482", placed_nodes = "29817", died = "186", crafted = "41811", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "79", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "12", partychat = "party", yl_commons_player_created = "1700288470", yl_commons_player_joined = "1703113864", repellant = "0", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = 1128, [\"x\"] = 2299, [\"y\"] = 28806}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1700995484, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1703115998}", ["signslib:pos"] = "(18787,33,18513)", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", ["stamina:level"] = "20", jointime = "1700288470", bitten = "0", xp = "68590", hud_state = "on", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_medium\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", yl_commons_thankyou = "18", ["ocean_build.forbidden"] = "true", punch_count = "9435", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", inflicted_damage = "181380", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\"}", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1702173287", ["ambience.svol"] = "0.1", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "2" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = 4MwecaWn6R3jGxXTmDdjttLcDIOgoTY9 ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20231220T234753.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 1d 8h 52min 23s | max lag: 0.644s | clients (15/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Bailiff, betzi, Boot, Chache, DragonWrangler1, Ernle1, flux, jackofthebean000, Jammy, jet, Lupercus, poppyasdan, rheo, taonza12 ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 2003 15 1162 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction 4MwecaWn6R3jGxXTmDdjttLcDIOgoTY9 D2691E 2003 15 1162 ```
AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report 2023-12-20 23:47:53 +00:00

uhhhhhhhh......not an issue, you shouldn't be up front with whips in the first place.

uhhhhhhhh......not an issue, you shouldn't be up front with whips in the first place.
flux added the
1. kind/balancing
label 2023-12-21 01:11:05 +00:00
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@Jammy care to provide any specific suggestions?

@Jammy care to provide any specific suggestions?

i think we should make the whips attack faster but less damage. Now it can kill instantly which is overpowered.

i think we should make the whips attack faster but less damage. Now it can kill instantly which is overpowered.

One whip can kill those without armor instantly, and those with crystal armor in 2-3 hits, so about as strong as iron golems. However whips are very close to each other so they attack in groups.

One whip can kill those without armor instantly, and those with crystal armor in 2-3 hits, so about as strong as iron golems. However whips are very close to each other so they attack in groups.

Due to their range, they can be very difficult to kill when in group clumped together

Due to their range, they can be very difficult to kill when in group clumped together

I've said this previously, but I think the primary issue with whips is the fact that you're supposed to engage them with ranged weapons, but all the ranged weapons suck or are the balrog whip, so you're basically mostly fighting these on melee.
i think they won't be a huge issue if we had better ranged weapons, but that's going off track.

I've said this previously, but I think the primary issue with whips is the fact that you're supposed to engage them with ranged weapons, but all the ranged weapons suck or are the balrog whip, so you're basically mostly fighting these on melee. i think they won't be a huge issue if we had better ranged weapons, but that's going off track.

Apparently the issue is not the whips, but that ranged weapons are currently broken: #5717

Sure whips and even groups of whips are a challenge. That is intended.

Wontfix

Apparently the issue is not the whips, but that ranged weapons are currently broken: #5717 Sure whips and even groups of whips are a challenge. That is intended. Wontfix
AliasAlreadyTaken added the
5. result/wontfix
label 2023-12-21 18:46:39 +00:00
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