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frost_ocean doesn't generate normally compared to other *_ocean biomes #5716

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opened 2023-12-16 15:56:11 +00:00 by rewired_X · 17 comments
rewired_X commented 2023-12-16 15:56:11 +00:00
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Originally posted by flux (#5661):

i was able to find frost_ocean biomes on the main server, but they've disappeared from those same locations on the test server and on my local test server. i worry that somehow ethereal worldgen has changed for the even worse, and it might be impossible to get those blue seahorses soon.

Originally posted by flux (#5661): > i was able to find frost_ocean biomes on the main server, but they've disappeared from those same locations on the test server and on my local test server. i worry that somehow ethereal worldgen has changed for the even worse, and it might be impossible to get those blue seahorses soon.
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Murmel commented 2023-12-17 12:50:11 +00:00
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Blue Seahorses are fishable. If you use magellan, you have to be in ocean (at least one block deep, but in frost ocean probably deeper, to get it shown as frost_ocean.

Blue Seahorses are fishable. If you use magellan, you have to be in ocean (at least one block deep, but in frost ocean probably deeper, to get it shown as frost_ocean.
rewired_X commented 2023-12-17 12:59:49 +00:00
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blue seahorses are fishable yes, but that's not the issue here.
the problem is frost_ocean only generates BELOW the surface of the water, whereas other biomes do not have this handicap.

blue seahorses are fishable yes, but that's not the issue here. the problem is frost_ocean only generates BELOW the surface of the water, whereas other biomes do not have this handicap.
flux commented 2023-12-17 19:35:04 +00:00
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i thought i'd download amidst to try to check out the distribution of biomes at various elevations.

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"jumble", you say...

i thought i'd download [amidst](https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=19869) to try to check out the distribution of biomes at various elevations. ![image](/attachments/50a0d529-fb28-4b3b-b2a7-bbe10a4ca3be) "jumble", you say...
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flux commented 2023-12-17 19:56:45 +00:00
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upstream issue: https://codeberg.org/tenplus1/ethereal/issues/2

upstream issue: https://codeberg.org/tenplus1/ethereal/issues/2
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rewired_X commented 2023-12-20 01:08:45 +00:00
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this area that WAS frost_ocean is now taiga_ocean...time is running out, if this was due to the update frost_ocean might become nonexistent

this area that WAS frost_ocean is now taiga_ocean...time is running out, if this was due to the update frost_ocean might become nonexistent
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rewired_X commented 2023-12-20 01:11:57 +00:00
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tested another site near the xmas market in maravillosa, again no frost_ocean, only frost and taiga_ocean

tested another site near the xmas market in maravillosa, again no frost_ocean, only frost and taiga_ocean
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DragonWrangler commented 2023-12-20 01:20:32 +00:00
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every frost_ocean biome at Melbourne is now taiga_ocean

every frost_ocean biome at Melbourne is now taiga_ocean
rewired_X commented 2023-12-20 01:22:41 +00:00
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i suspect 1.1.122 made frost_ocean nonexistent, bringing getting blue seahorses to be impossible now.

i suspect 1.1.122 made frost_ocean nonexistent, bringing getting blue seahorses to be impossible now.
DragonWrangler commented 2023-12-20 01:24:04 +00:00
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so, either frost_ocean will have to be brought back, if it's even possible now. Or blue seahorses will have to be changed from frost_ocean to taiga_ocean

so, either frost_ocean will have to be brought back, if it's even possible now. Or blue seahorses will have to be changed from frost_ocean to taiga_ocean
AliasAlreadyTaken commented 2023-12-20 01:44:18 +00:00
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Upstream is said to be fixed, we'll try that on the testserver

Upstream is said to be fixed, we'll try that on the testserver
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AliasAlreadyTaken commented 2024-01-26 02:53:46 +00:00
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Unfortunately it is not fixed. The biome frost_ocean now starts at -0, which is 2 blocks below the surface. First air block above ocean is at y=2.

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moved the biome one LOWER instead of higher.

The bobber's position is around y=1.5

https://codeberg.org/tenplus1/ethereal/issues/7

QA Unfortunately it is not fixed. The biome frost_ocean now starts at -0, which is 2 blocks below the surface. First air block above ocean is at y=2. The "fix" https://codeberg.org/tenplus1/ethereal/commit/109a749bb393d60d689f815a4c801808d7f034f4 moved the biome one LOWER instead of higher. The bobber's position is around y=1.5 https://codeberg.org/tenplus1/ethereal/issues/7
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AliasAlreadyTaken commented 2024-01-28 13:48:48 +00:00
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Upstream was fixed again, but now instead of the planned coniferous ocean we have taiga ocean below frost biomes.

QA Upstream was fixed again, but now instead of the planned coniferous ocean we have taiga ocean below frost biomes.
AliasAlreadyTaken commented 2024-01-29 09:31:10 +00:00
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Upstream was fixed again, but now instead of fishing the blue seahorse from a coniferous ocean we fish them directly from the glacier biome. That miraculously works

I could even fish other stuff that is biome bound. I didn't look at each and everyone of those, but in general it works.

Now we need the experts. Lupeeeeeeercus?!

QA Upstream was fixed again, but now instead of fishing the blue seahorse from a coniferous ocean we fish them directly from the glacier biome. That miraculously works I could even fish other stuff that is biome bound. I didn't look at each and everyone of those, but in general it works. Now we need the experts. Lupeeeeeeercus?!
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flux commented 2024-03-28 19:15:22 +00:00
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validated that this is live. took about 30 minutes :\

validated that this is live. took about 30 minutes :\
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AliasAlreadyTaken commented 2024-03-29 03:24:14 +00:00
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In such cases we should better send out the local experts: Lupercus :D

In such cases we should better send out the local experts: Lupercus :D
flux commented 2024-03-29 04:27:43 +00:00
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In such cases we should better send out the local experts: Lupercus :D

hm maybe that would have been a better use of my time, but Lupercus's time is also valuable :)

> In such cases we should better send out the local experts: Lupercus :D hm maybe that would have been a better use of my time, but Lupercus's time is also valuable :)
AliasAlreadyTaken commented 2024-03-29 04:28:48 +00:00
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Except that I bet Lupercus would enjoy the hike ;)

Except that I bet Lupercus would enjoy the hike ;)
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