AliasAlreadyTaken reports: testserver Ingot stacks: Not e ... #3588

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yourland-report · 2023-01-21T21:33:16Z

yourland-report commented

2023-01-21 21:33:16 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken reports a bug:

testserver Ingot stacks: Not even wither can explode them. Could be abused to build cheap-ingot nether bases

Player position:

{
	y = 15,
	z = 1299.3380126953,
	x = 2030.1989746094
}

Player look:

{
	y = -0.17519490420818,
	z = 0.34076377749443,
	x = 0.92368113994598
}

Player information:

{
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 0.31999999284744,
	avg_jitter = 0.0020000003278255,
	connection_uptime = 5103,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	protocol_version = 41,
	major = 5,
	minor = 7,
	version_string = "5.7.0-dev-e21d5613a",
	formspec_version = 6,
	max_rtt = 0.34299999475479,
	lang_code = "",
	state = "Active",
	ip_version = 6,
	min_rtt = 0.01799999922514,
	avg_rtt = 0.021999999880791
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		bitten = "0",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		xp_redo_hud_color = "0xFFFF00",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "72.5",
		arenalib_watchID = "0",
		played_time = "71298521",
		["arena_lib_editor.players_number"] = "0",
		placed_nodes = "178366",
		["arena_lib_editor.team_ID"] = "0",
		crafted = "4533",
		hud_state = "on",
		lagometer = "1",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		partychat = "party",
		["stamina:level"] = "10",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(1452,-17,1910)",
		szutil_watch = "return {}",
		yl_audio_state = "off",
		["ethereal:fly_timer"] = "-99",
		team = "STAFF",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.66878e+09",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "1",
		punch_count = "62525",
		inflicted_damage = "2553216",
		["sethome:home"] = "(1983.4349365234,17.5,1183.5950927734)",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0",
		["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"speed\"] = 1, [\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"gravity\"] = 1, [\"jump\"] = 1, [\"sneak\"] = true}",
		xp = "0",
		["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "19",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "752",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_heal\"] = 1622459682, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = 307, [\"x\"] = 2876, [\"y\"] = 64}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1670634104}",
		["arena_lib_editor.spawner_ID"] = "0",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "4",
		died = "1583",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\"}",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		digged_nodes = "137710",
		repellant = "0",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1674331706"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = j08HY3qPEk0eY1lABiTdRgvoXv9sV5Hv

Profiler save:

profile-20230121T213315.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.6.1-yl-debug | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 1h 25min 9s | max lag: 0.45s | clients (3/42): AliasAlreadyTaken, Boris, niceride

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 2030 15 1299

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction j08HY3qPEk0eY1lABiTdRgvoXv9sV5Hv D2691E 2030 15 1299

AliasAlreadyTaken reports a bug: > testserver Ingot stacks: Not even wither can explode them. Could be abused to build cheap-ingot nether bases Player position: ``` { y = 15, z = 1299.3380126953, x = 2030.1989746094 } ``` Player look: ``` { y = -0.17519490420818, z = 0.34076377749443, x = 0.92368113994598 } ``` Player information: ``` { min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 0.31999999284744, avg_jitter = 0.0020000003278255, connection_uptime = 5103, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, protocol_version = 41, major = 5, minor = 7, version_string = "5.7.0-dev-e21d5613a", formspec_version = 6, max_rtt = 0.34299999475479, lang_code = "", state = "Active", ip_version = 6, min_rtt = 0.01799999922514, avg_rtt = 0.021999999880791 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { bitten = "0", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", xp_redo_hud_color = "0xFFFF00", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "72.5", arenalib_watchID = "0", played_time = "71298521", ["arena_lib_editor.players_number"] = "0", placed_nodes = "178366", ["arena_lib_editor.team_ID"] = "0", crafted = "4533", hud_state = "on", lagometer = "1", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", partychat = "party", ["stamina:level"] = "10", ["signslib:pos"] = "(1452,-17,1910)", szutil_watch = "return {}", yl_audio_state = "off", ["ethereal:fly_timer"] = "-99", team = "STAFF", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.66878e+09", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "1", punch_count = "62525", inflicted_damage = "2553216", ["sethome:home"] = "(1983.4349365234,17.5,1183.5950927734)", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0", ["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"speed\"] = 1, [\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"gravity\"] = 1, [\"jump\"] = 1, [\"sneak\"] = true}", xp = "0", ["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "19", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", yl_commons_thankyou = "752", yl_church = "return {[\"last_heal\"] = 1622459682, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = 307, [\"x\"] = 2876, [\"y\"] = 64}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1670634104}", ["arena_lib_editor.spawner_ID"] = "0", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "4", died = "1583", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\"}", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", digged_nodes = "137710", repellant = "0", yl_commons_player_joined = "1674331706" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = j08HY3qPEk0eY1lABiTdRgvoXv9sV5Hv ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20230121T213315.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.6.1-yl-debug | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 1h 25min 9s | max lag: 0.45s | clients (3/42): AliasAlreadyTaken, Boris, niceride ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 2030 15 1299 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction j08HY3qPEk0eY1lABiTdRgvoXv9sV5Hv D2691E 2030 15 1299 ```

AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2023-01-21 21:33:16 +00:00

flux added the

1. kind/balancing

label 2023-01-22 00:51:25 +00:00

flux commented

2023-01-22 00:52:49 +00:00

this is not hard to fix, but has to be done carefully. also, players can already build wither-proof bases out of a single ingot and 8 wood (locked chests). perhaps we need to re-evaluate which nodes are wither-proof more generally?

niceride commented

2023-01-22 11:10:02 +00:00

@flux the trick here is that any chest with inventory content is blast-proof; eight stacked ingots form a chest that is not locked to any specific player and does not have any inventory but is also blast-proof. Is that intentional? It would be kind of useful in situations where you want a blast-proof block that doesn't look like nether basalt.

flux commented

2023-01-22 16:30:05 +00:00

ingot stacks are now blastable: fb4b0bf075

ingot stacks are now blastable: https://gitea.your-land.de/your-land/yl_commons/commit/fb4b0bf0750e8aa77580f15b738aad3649638d06

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flux added the

4. step/ready to QA test

label 2023-01-22 16:30:20 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2023-01-22 17:32:34 +00:00

From a gamedesign perspective, the nether needs to have as few "invincible block" opportunities as possible. I can see the reasoning why one would make a locked chest not explodable though, but it does not apply to the nether IMO.

AliasAlreadyTaken added this to the 1.1.117 milestone 2023-01-22 17:32:50 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken added the

ugh/QA OK

label 2023-01-22 21:02:20 +00:00

niceride commented

2023-01-23 23:34:55 +00:00

edited, as suggested making a new issue to track some ideas following this one: #3603

niceride referenced this issue

2023-01-23 23:46:42 +00:00

Blasts-proof nodes in testing add/remove blast-proof quality #3603

flux added

5. result/fixed