AspireMint reports: Drowned in nether because of s ... #6655

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yourland-report · 2024-04-15T14:52:37Z

yourland-report commented

2024-04-15 14:52:37 +00:00

AspireMint reports a bug:

Drowned in nether because of server lag. Could not use any items, /status did not work, /spawn did not work. But guess what worked? Losing healths and even it said i drowned, and "You lost 11347 XP!" So messages works, it knows about me losing hp, but no response from commands or any other actions.

Player position:

{
	x = 2002.1989746094,
	y = 14.5,
	z = 1151.7860107422
}

Player look:

{
	x = 0.73466074466705,
	y = 0.0068067312240601,
	z = 0.67840045690536
}

Player information:

{
	min_rtt = 0.023000000044703,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 0.57300001382828,
	avg_jitter = 0,
	connection_uptime = 2739,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	state = "Active",
	protocol_version = 42,
	minor = 7,
	version_string = "5.7.0",
	ip_version = 6,
	major = 5,
	lang_code = "",
	avg_rtt = 0.025000000372529,
	max_rtt = 0.59799998998642,
	formspec_version = 6
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\"}",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_heal\"] = 1708702962, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1713190109, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = 1796, [\"y\"] = 29785, [\"z\"] = 2017}}",
		partychat = "party",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1713190038",
		["stamina:level"] = "20",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "35",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1619715757",
		xp = "2306262",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"water_life:croc_bag\"}",
		played_time = "8228915",
		bitten = "0",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(-435,47,21498)",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "12",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.65674e+09",
		["ocean_build.forbidden"] = "true",
		hotbar_size = "16",
		repellant = "0",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		hud_state = "on",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1",
		jointime = "1619715757",
		punch_count = "614768",
		crafted = "228068",
		inflicted_damage = "13306968",
		digged_nodes = "2289199",
		placed_nodes = "439893",
		died = "415",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "357"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = kHAHUBD4cY9UFB8FMB8Wsdz9EMoW3Nal

Profiler save:

profile-20240415T145237.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 1d 21h 12min 59s | max lag: 1.94s | clients (16/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, AspireMint, Azelf, Bailiff, Bingo, DanteLeo, jim15, jim15-2, JinnyC, LadYeauty, LilyBelle, Murmel, Pelu, pifo, playor, Service

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 2002 15 1152

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction kHAHUBD4cY9UFB8FMB8Wsdz9EMoW3Nal D2691E 2002 15 1152

AspireMint reports a bug: > Drowned in nether because of server lag. Could not use any items, /status did not work, /spawn did not work. But guess what worked? Losing healths and even it said i drowned, and "You lost 11347 XP!" So messages works, it knows about me losing hp, but no response from commands or any other actions. Player position: ``` { x = 2002.1989746094, y = 14.5, z = 1151.7860107422 } ``` Player look: ``` { x = 0.73466074466705, y = 0.0068067312240601, z = 0.67840045690536 } ``` Player information: ``` { min_rtt = 0.023000000044703, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 0.57300001382828, avg_jitter = 0, connection_uptime = 2739, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, state = "Active", protocol_version = 42, minor = 7, version_string = "5.7.0", ip_version = 6, major = 5, lang_code = "", avg_rtt = 0.025000000372529, max_rtt = 0.59799998998642, formspec_version = 6 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\"}", yl_church = "return {[\"last_heal\"] = 1708702962, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1713190109, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = 1796, [\"y\"] = 29785, [\"z\"] = 2017}}", partychat = "party", yl_commons_player_joined = "1713190038", ["stamina:level"] = "20", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "35", yl_commons_player_created = "1619715757", xp = "2306262", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"water_life:croc_bag\"}", played_time = "8228915", bitten = "0", ["signslib:pos"] = "(-435,47,21498)", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "12", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.65674e+09", ["ocean_build.forbidden"] = "true", hotbar_size = "16", repellant = "0", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", hud_state = "on", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1", jointime = "1619715757", punch_count = "614768", crafted = "228068", inflicted_damage = "13306968", digged_nodes = "2289199", placed_nodes = "439893", died = "415", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", yl_commons_thankyou = "357" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = kHAHUBD4cY9UFB8FMB8Wsdz9EMoW3Nal ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20240415T145237.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 1d 21h 12min 59s | max lag: 1.94s | clients (16/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, AspireMint, Azelf, Bailiff, Bingo, DanteLeo, jim15, jim15-2, JinnyC, LadYeauty, LilyBelle, Murmel, Pelu, pifo, playor, Service ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 2002 15 1152 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction kHAHUBD4cY9UFB8FMB8Wsdz9EMoW3Nal D2691E 2002 15 1152 ```

AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2024-04-15 14:52:37 +00:00

AspireMint commented

2024-04-15 14:55:08 +00:00

And no, its not in my internet connection.
Great i can look at my bones.

And no, its not in my internet connection. Great i can look at my bones. ![screenshot_20240415_164821.png](/attachments/78b36906-3dd7-423d-856f-7bc55945a7f6)

screenshot_20240415_164821.png

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AliasAlreadyTaken added the

1. kind/bug

3. source/lag

labels 2024-04-15 14:59:44 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2024-04-15 15:00:36 +00:00

max lag: 1.94s ... something was going on there, enough to kill. Let's refund xp and items and investigate.

AspireMint commented

2024-04-15 15:03:30 +00:00

No idea what max lag means, but this lag was like 20-30 seconds long. I could swim around my bones taking pictures.

DragonWrangler commented

2024-04-15 19:34:56 +00:00

No idea what max lag means

Max server lag.

> No idea what max lag means Max server lag.

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2024-04-15 21:17:41 +00:00

I saved the items, they are in the Haven Town Hall

AzelfYL commented

2024-04-15 23:22:44 +00:00

I and Pilo also reported a massive lag spike around that time, although max_lag didn't seem to reflect it. I personally assumed it was tied to something like the memory issues.

flux commented

2024-04-16 04:13:29 +00:00

i wonder what could cause an apparent 30 second lag spike that doesn't show up on in either max_lag or max_rtt. maybe packetloss? there might be a way to measure that with a protocol change - everything packet musk SYN-ACK and ACK like TCP, and we record a count of anything that doesn't? but we only track those states for statistics, so as to not make transmissions even laggier?

to be sure, i don't want to accuse AspireMint of lying or exaggerating, this isn't the first time this has happened, and i've also had "surprise" deaths that didn't add up w/ the metrics.

but i do want to opine that trying to survive the nether by swimming under the lava with a gilly staff should not be considered predictably safe. the nether is dangerous in many ways. intentionally, one of those is that it's less predictable because of lag. go slow, be super cautions, have escape plans. i haven't taken down a dragon in years, but it was hellish when i did, and i died a lot. killing dragons and balrogs are just not things that advanced players can do safely unless they time things to just after a level up.

i wonder what could cause an apparent 30 second lag spike that doesn't show up on in either `max_lag` or `max_rtt`. maybe packetloss? there might be a way to measure that with a protocol change - everything packet musk SYN-ACK and ACK like TCP, and we record a count of anything that doesn't? but we only track those states for statistics, so as to not make transmissions even laggier? to be sure, i don't want to accuse AspireMint of lying or exaggerating, this isn't the first time this has happened, and i've also had "surprise" deaths that didn't add up w/ the metrics. but i do want to opine that trying to survive the nether by swimming under the lava with a gilly staff *should not* be considered predictably safe. the nether is dangerous in many ways. intentionally, one of those is that it's less predictable because of lag. go slow, be super cautions, have escape plans. i haven't taken down a dragon in years, but it was hellish when i did, and i died a lot. killing dragons and balrogs are just not things that advanced players can do safely unless they time things to just after a level up.

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