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yourland-report · 2024-03-22T16:18:51Z

yourland-report commented

2024-03-22 16:18:51 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken reports a bug:

Discuss publication of your-land-mirror repo so everyone can see which upstream we are using

Player position:

{
	y = 18,
	z = 1174.3900146484,
	x = 1979.3000488281
}

Player look:

{
	y = -0.084895223379135,
	z = -0.016693660989404,
	x = 0.9962500333786
}

Player information:

{
	max_rtt = 0.86900001764297,
	minor = 9,
	formspec_version = 7,
	state = "Active",
	version_string = "5.9.0-dev-5727d74d3",
	protocol_version = 42,
	patch = 0,
	lang_code = "de",
	ip_version = 6,
	major = 5,
	min_rtt = 0.013000000268221,
	avg_rtt = 0.014999999664724,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 0.76800000667572,
	avg_jitter = 0,
	connection_uptime = 40249,
	serialization_version = 29
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		played_time = "104563638",
		digged_nodes = "140818",
		szutil_watch = "return {}",
		["arena_lib_editor.spawner_ID"] = "0",
		crafted = "4795",
		partychat = "party",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1711084088",
		bitten = "0",
		lagometer = "1",
		["ethereal:fly_timer"] = "-99",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		arenalib_watchID = "0",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.67421e+09",
		["hud_manager:spawnit:hud_enabled"] = "y",
		yl_audio_state = "off",
		["arena_lib_editor.players_number"] = "0",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		["stamina:level"] = "0",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "1557",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "10",
		["arena_lib_editor.team_ID"] = "0",
		["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"speed\"] = 1, [\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"gravity\"] = 1, [\"jump\"] = 1, [\"sneak\"] = true}",
		xp = "0",
		["sethome:home"] = "(1983.4349365234,17.5,1183.5950927734)",
		["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "19",
		repellant = "0",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\"}",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "4",
		["ocean_build.forbidden"] = "true",
		died = "1593",
		hud_state = "on",
		partypvp = "true",
		xp_redo_hud_color = "0xFFFF00",
		placed_nodes = "183902",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "12",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(2150,16,1122)",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = 1979, [\"y\"] = 18, [\"z\"] = 1174}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1707613077, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1683839371}",
		punch_count = "65251",
		team = "STAFF",
		inflicted_damage = "3019536"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = Vk21RaDXqMUyDy2u0CiPqqN0U6eD8jI5

Profiler save:

profile-20240322T161851.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 6d 2h 48min 24s | max lag: 1.66s | clients (23/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, AspireMint, Bailiff, BenOnly, Chache, Crazylad, flux, FYYF, JACKOBY, JinnyC, joke15, kirill818459, laira, MeZN, Minetest13, Murmel, Nomtom, notzadok, playor, poppyasdan, Service, Supercheese, taonza12

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 1979 18 1174

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction Vk21RaDXqMUyDy2u0CiPqqN0U6eD8jI5 D2691E 1979 18 1174

AliasAlreadyTaken reports a bug: > Discuss publication of your-land-mirror repo so everyone can see which upstream we are using Player position: ``` { y = 18, z = 1174.3900146484, x = 1979.3000488281 } ``` Player look: ``` { y = -0.084895223379135, z = -0.016693660989404, x = 0.9962500333786 } ``` Player information: ``` { max_rtt = 0.86900001764297, minor = 9, formspec_version = 7, state = "Active", version_string = "5.9.0-dev-5727d74d3", protocol_version = 42, patch = 0, lang_code = "de", ip_version = 6, major = 5, min_rtt = 0.013000000268221, avg_rtt = 0.014999999664724, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 0.76800000667572, avg_jitter = 0, connection_uptime = 40249, serialization_version = 29 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", played_time = "104563638", digged_nodes = "140818", szutil_watch = "return {}", ["arena_lib_editor.spawner_ID"] = "0", crafted = "4795", partychat = "party", yl_commons_player_joined = "1711084088", bitten = "0", lagometer = "1", ["ethereal:fly_timer"] = "-99", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", arenalib_watchID = "0", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.67421e+09", ["hud_manager:spawnit:hud_enabled"] = "y", yl_audio_state = "off", ["arena_lib_editor.players_number"] = "0", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", ["stamina:level"] = "0", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", yl_commons_thankyou = "1557", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "10", ["arena_lib_editor.team_ID"] = "0", ["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"speed\"] = 1, [\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"gravity\"] = 1, [\"jump\"] = 1, [\"sneak\"] = true}", xp = "0", ["sethome:home"] = "(1983.4349365234,17.5,1183.5950927734)", ["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "19", repellant = "0", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\", \"\"}", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "4", ["ocean_build.forbidden"] = "true", died = "1593", hud_state = "on", partypvp = "true", xp_redo_hud_color = "0xFFFF00", placed_nodes = "183902", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "12", ["signslib:pos"] = "(2150,16,1122)", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = 1979, [\"y\"] = 18, [\"z\"] = 1174}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1707613077, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1683839371}", punch_count = "65251", team = "STAFF", inflicted_damage = "3019536" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = Vk21RaDXqMUyDy2u0CiPqqN0U6eD8jI5 ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20240322T161851.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 6d 2h 48min 24s | max lag: 1.66s | clients (23/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, AspireMint, Bailiff, BenOnly, Chache, Crazylad, flux, FYYF, JACKOBY, JinnyC, joke15, kirill818459, laira, MeZN, Minetest13, Murmel, Nomtom, notzadok, playor, poppyasdan, Service, Supercheese, taonza12 ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 1979 18 1174 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction Vk21RaDXqMUyDy2u0CiPqqN0U6eD8jI5 D2691E 1979 18 1174 ```

AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2024-03-22 16:18:51 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken added the

1. kind/protocol

4. step/discussion

3. source/license

labels 2024-03-22 16:22:17 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2024-03-22 16:33:46 +00:00

Question is, whether there is any harm done or profit gained from publishing the repo. If its public, everyone could help on bugfixes or point to more modern/maintained solutions. As far as I can tell, there are no secrets involved, no yl_stable branch is on that mirror org and no non-published yl mod is.

This question only affects the MIRROR org: https://gitea.your-land.de/org/your-land-mirror/dashboard

It does NOT affect the master repo: https://gitea.your-land.de/your-land/yourland-mods

Question is, whether there is any harm done or profit gained from publishing the repo. If its public, everyone could help on bugfixes or point to more modern/maintained solutions. As far as I can tell, there are no secrets involved, no yl_stable branch is on that mirror org and no non-published yl mod is. This question only affects the MIRROR org: https://gitea.your-land.de/org/your-land-mirror/dashboard It does NOT affect the master repo: https://gitea.your-land.de/your-land/yourland-mods

flux commented

2024-03-25 19:37:57 +00:00

i can't think of any issue in publishing this off the top of my head

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Jammy commented

2024-04-01 02:40:08 +00:00

Yep but some thieves, especially ones in my country, might profit off from them. See Minecraft and Mini World as an example.

flux commented

2024-04-01 04:30:11 +00:00

Yep but some thieves, especially ones in my country, might profit off from them. See Minecraft and Mini World as an example.

we're more worried about people abusing the law to go after us. i don't think we have a problem with other people using our code. most of it is MIT or LGPL.

> Yep but some thieves, especially ones in my country, might profit off from them. See Minecraft and Mini World as an example. we're more worried about people abusing the law to go after us. i don't think we have a problem with other people using our code. most of it is MIT or LGPL.

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Jammy commented

2024-04-01 05:08:28 +00:00

we're more worried about people abusing the law to go after us. i don't think we have a problem with other people using our code. most of it is MIT or LGPL.

Never underestimate pirates. Some people in my country managed to invent Windows-cracking software that still work after twenty years. They don't care about license.

> we're more worried about people abusing the law to go after us. i don't think we have a problem with other people using our code. most of it is MIT or LGPL. Never underestimate pirates. Some people in my country managed to invent Windows-cracking software that still work after twenty years. They don't care about license.

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2024-04-01 05:16:55 +00:00

we're more worried about people abusing the law to go after us. i don't think we have a problem with other people using our code. most of it is MIT or LGPL.

Never underestimate pirates. Some people in my country managed to invent Windows-cracking software that still work after twenty years. They don't care about license.

How do you make them non-pirates? We could send SpaceForce, the A-Team and James Bond after them and hire a trillion lawyers. But the most effective way to not make them pirates is to share our code with them.

> > > we're more worried about people abusing the law to go after us. i don't think we have a problem with other people using our code. most of it is MIT or LGPL. > > Never underestimate pirates. Some people in my country managed to invent Windows-cracking software that still work after twenty years. They don't care about license. How do you make them non-pirates? We could send SpaceForce, the A-Team and James Bond after them and hire a trillion lawyers. But the most effective way to not make them pirates is to share our code with them.

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Jammy commented

2024-04-01 10:35:26 +00:00

How do you make them non-pirates? We could send SpaceForce, the A-Team and James Bond after them and hire a trillion lawyers. But the most effective way to not make them pirates is to share our code with them.

Yep. Most, if not all, thieves steal because they are poor, you know (apart from Huawei and how they stole Android claiming that they made the system by themselves). If they have code they won't need to use illegal measures to take them anymore.

> How do you make them non-pirates? We could send SpaceForce, the A-Team and James Bond after them and hire a trillion lawyers. But the most effective way to not make them pirates is to share our code with them. Yep. Most, if not all, thieves steal because they are poor, you know (apart from Huawei and how they stole Android claiming that they made the system by themselves). If they have code they won't need to use illegal measures to take them anymore.

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