DragonWrangler1 reports: when you get bitten by a snake ... #6424

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yourland-report · 2024-03-09T15:32:50Z

yourland-report commented

2024-03-09 15:32:50 +00:00

DragonWrangler1 reports a bug:

when you get bitten by a snake, you should get a poison effect, like when you eat raw potatoes

Player position:

{
	x = 30245.0625,
	y = 5.5,
	z = -747.11700439453
}

Player look:

{
	x = 0.97732222080231,
	y = 0.1890954375267,
	z = -0.09531082212925
}

Player information:

{
	max_rtt = 3.3629999160767,
	ip_version = 6,
	lang_code = "",
	avg_rtt = 0.14699999988079,
	minor = 8,
	max_jitter = 3.1559998989105,
	avg_jitter = 0.0030000060796738,
	connection_uptime = 5889,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	version_string = "5.8.0",
	state = "Active",
	formspec_version = 7,
	protocol_version = 42,
	min_jitter = 0,
	min_rtt = 0.14399999380112,
	major = 5
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		yl_commons_thankyou = "433",
		xp = "585014",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(30279,3,-728)",
		partychat = "party",
		["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"new_move\"] = true, [\"speed\"] = 2, [\"gravity\"] = 1, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"sneak\"] = true}",
		placed_nodes = "362859",
		died = "1376",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1668874705",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1709992494",
		["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "5",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		repellant = "0",
		["stamina:level"] = "15",
		hud_state = "on",
		hotbar_size = "32",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		digged_nodes = "1368878",
		inflicted_damage = "3001000",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = 30057, [\"y\"] = 11, [\"z\"] = -326}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1707576717, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1709844376}",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1692193690",
		["ocean_build.forbidden"] = "true",
		bitten = "0",
		crafted = "244861",
		xp_redo_hud_color = "0xa66000",
		jointime = "1668874705",
		played_time = "6631411",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "12",
		punch_count = "163072",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 10696\", \"3d_armor:helmet_nether 1 26740\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 26740\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 26740\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 26740\"}",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "93"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = ay9rvf7f4ejkwYwkz0Z0GbGhWemFvK9t

Profiler save:

profile-20240309T153249.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 6d 3h 16min 41s | max lag: 1.58s | clients (29/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Aliza, AspireMint, Bailiff, Bingo, Boot, Davidsoft, daydream, DragonWrangler1, flux, gianlp, Injury, JinnyC, kohai, LadyPixels, laira, LeetPeet, LucyUnicorn_Queen, Mikiangel, Minetest13, Murmel, nakama-ta, Papergrown, rheo, Service, Shismu, Stevee, whosit, whostand

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 30245 6 -747

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction ay9rvf7f4ejkwYwkz0Z0GbGhWemFvK9t D2691E 30245 6 -747

DragonWrangler1 reports a bug: > when you get bitten by a snake, you should get a poison effect, like when you eat raw potatoes Player position: ``` { x = 30245.0625, y = 5.5, z = -747.11700439453 } ``` Player look: ``` { x = 0.97732222080231, y = 0.1890954375267, z = -0.09531082212925 } ``` Player information: ``` { max_rtt = 3.3629999160767, ip_version = 6, lang_code = "", avg_rtt = 0.14699999988079, minor = 8, max_jitter = 3.1559998989105, avg_jitter = 0.0030000060796738, connection_uptime = 5889, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, version_string = "5.8.0", state = "Active", formspec_version = 7, protocol_version = 42, min_jitter = 0, min_rtt = 0.14399999380112, major = 5 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { yl_commons_thankyou = "433", xp = "585014", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0", ["signslib:pos"] = "(30279,3,-728)", partychat = "party", ["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"new_move\"] = true, [\"speed\"] = 2, [\"gravity\"] = 1, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"sneak\"] = true}", placed_nodes = "362859", died = "1376", yl_commons_player_created = "1668874705", yl_commons_player_joined = "1709992494", ["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "5", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", repellant = "0", ["stamina:level"] = "15", hud_state = "on", hotbar_size = "32", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", digged_nodes = "1368878", inflicted_damage = "3001000", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = 30057, [\"y\"] = 11, [\"z\"] = -326}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1707576717, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1709844376}", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1692193690", ["ocean_build.forbidden"] = "true", bitten = "0", crafted = "244861", xp_redo_hud_color = "0xa66000", jointime = "1668874705", played_time = "6631411", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "12", punch_count = "163072", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 10696\", \"3d_armor:helmet_nether 1 26740\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 26740\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 26740\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 26740\"}", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "93" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = ay9rvf7f4ejkwYwkz0Z0GbGhWemFvK9t ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20240309T153249.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 6d 3h 16min 41s | max lag: 1.58s | clients (29/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Aliza, AspireMint, Bailiff, Bingo, Boot, Davidsoft, daydream, DragonWrangler1, flux, gianlp, Injury, JinnyC, kohai, LadyPixels, laira, LeetPeet, LucyUnicorn_Queen, Mikiangel, Minetest13, Murmel, nakama-ta, Papergrown, rheo, Service, Shismu, Stevee, whosit, whostand ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 30245 6 -747 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction ay9rvf7f4ejkwYwkz0Z0GbGhWemFvK9t D2691E 30245 6 -747 ```

AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2024-03-09 15:32:50 +00:00

rewired_X commented

2024-03-09 17:17:27 +00:00

im fairly certain the poison mechanic is probably disabled since I have seen people complain on other servers w/ water_life about the poison

AzelfYL commented

2024-03-09 23:47:37 +00:00

Iirc the snake did have a poison effect, but it was really buggy so it was disabled.

rewired_X commented

2024-03-10 12:27:51 +00:00

i know one of its bugs was the poison effect lasted through death (which the water_life dev said was "intentional" ???)

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2024-03-10 14:07:09 +00:00

We disabled the poison effect on purpose because it is a bad game mechanic. All things that kill you or affect you in a negative way need a countermechanic of choice, by skill, by possession, ....

You don't want to die in pvp, then you have the choice not to enable pvp. If you want to take less damage, you put on more armour. There are Voice troops about to surround your position, you know when to get out if you want to live. You don't want to die to potato poisoning, then you stop eating more raw potatoes after the damage tick sets in.

There shouldn't be anything that simply kills you not matter what you do have or know. This is the case with snake poison, so we disabled it.

wontfix

We disabled the poison effect on purpose because it is a bad game mechanic. All things that kill you or affect you in a negative way need a countermechanic of choice, by skill, by possession, .... You don't want to die in pvp, then you have the choice not to enable pvp. If you want to take less damage, you put on more armour. There are Voice troops about to surround your position, you know when to get out if you want to live. You don't want to die to potato poisoning, then you stop eating more raw potatoes after the damage tick sets in. There shouldn't be anything that simply kills you not matter what you do have or know. This is the case with snake poison, so we disabled it. wontfix

AliasAlreadyTaken closed this issue

2024-03-10 14:07:09 +00:00

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labels 2024-03-10 14:07:25 +00:00

flux commented

2024-03-11 18:54:47 +00:00

i definitely don't think we should bring back the old snake poison mechanic, but some sort of poison mechanic for snakes, scorpions, etc. hasn't been totally vetoed in the past (#286, #325).