flux reports: nerf the player hand. in parti ... #6275

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yourland-report · 2024-02-10T03:58:54Z

yourland-report commented

2024-02-10 03:58:54 +00:00

flux reports a bug:

nerf the player hand. in particular, no crumbly ability, controversially no choppy ability

Player position:

{
	y = 7.5,
	z = 536.06097412109,
	x = 1281.1989746094
}

Player look:

{
	y = -0.78618061542511,
	z = 0.61738002300262,
	x = -0.027603819966316
}

Player information:

{
	protocol_version = 42,
	formspec_version = 7,
	state = "Active",
	lang_code = "",
	version_string = "5.9.0-dev-454dd8576-dirty",
	ip_version = 6,
	min_rtt = 0.16500000655651,
	avg_rtt = 0.17499999701977,
	max_rtt = 7.3629999160767,
	max_jitter = 6.4849996566772,
	avg_jitter = 0.0030000060796738,
	connection_uptime = 42828,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	min_jitter = 0,
	major = 5,
	minor = 9
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		["petz:pre_werewolf_animation"] = "return {[\"animation_speed\"] = 30, [\"animation\"] = \"walk\", [\"textures\"] = {\"player.flux.0.png\", \"blank.png\", \"3d_armor_trans.png^3d_armor_helmet_party.png^3d_armor_leggings_rainbow.png^shields_shield_rainbow.png^3d_armor_chestplate_party.png^nether_mobs_dragon_boots.png\", \"moreores_tool_mithrilsword.png^[colorize:violet:50\"}, [\"model\"] = \"skinsdb_3d_armor_character_5.b3d\"}",
		hotbar_size = "32",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:helmet_party 1 32800\", \"3d_armor:leggings_rainbow 1 13840\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 13840\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_party 1 32800\", \"nether_mobs:dragon_boots 1 9320\", \"\"}",
		hud_state = "off",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1615351173",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1707494721",
		played_time = "47081117",
		digged_nodes = "1731864",
		placed_nodes = "488189",
		died = "101",
		crafted = "211840",
		jointime = "1615351173",
		bitten = "0",
		["hud_manager:spawnit:hud_enabled"] = "y",
		["stamina:level"] = "16",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "6.5",
		xp = "2345943",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "1",
		["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "20",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "377",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(1273,10,516)",
		partychat = "party",
		inflicted_damage = "6491242",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\"}",
		punch_count = "328176",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"y\"] = 52, [\"z\"] = 214, [\"x\"] = 2810}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1692114993, [\"last_heal\"] = 1615504208}",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		repellant = "0",
		["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"speed\"] = 2, [\"gravity\"] = 1}"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = FFPbzR6eturg5OPJm0h0cHfmvHl9eKEl

Profiler save:

profile-20240210T035854.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 1d 9h 18min 1s | max lag: 0.606s | clients (15/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Bailiff, Davidsoft, daydream, flux, IAM24, Isadora, Ivan9, jackofthebean000, LeetPeet, Service, smashingpumpkins, Sokomine, taonza12, uhhh

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 1281 8 536

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction FFPbzR6eturg5OPJm0h0cHfmvHl9eKEl D2691E 1281 8 536

flux reports a bug: > nerf the player hand. in particular, no crumbly ability, controversially no choppy ability Player position: ``` { y = 7.5, z = 536.06097412109, x = 1281.1989746094 } ``` Player look: ``` { y = -0.78618061542511, z = 0.61738002300262, x = -0.027603819966316 } ``` Player information: ``` { protocol_version = 42, formspec_version = 7, state = "Active", lang_code = "", version_string = "5.9.0-dev-454dd8576-dirty", ip_version = 6, min_rtt = 0.16500000655651, avg_rtt = 0.17499999701977, max_rtt = 7.3629999160767, max_jitter = 6.4849996566772, avg_jitter = 0.0030000060796738, connection_uptime = 42828, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, min_jitter = 0, major = 5, minor = 9 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { ["petz:pre_werewolf_animation"] = "return {[\"animation_speed\"] = 30, [\"animation\"] = \"walk\", [\"textures\"] = {\"player.flux.0.png\", \"blank.png\", \"3d_armor_trans.png^3d_armor_helmet_party.png^3d_armor_leggings_rainbow.png^shields_shield_rainbow.png^3d_armor_chestplate_party.png^nether_mobs_dragon_boots.png\", \"moreores_tool_mithrilsword.png^[colorize:violet:50\"}, [\"model\"] = \"skinsdb_3d_armor_character_5.b3d\"}", hotbar_size = "32", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:helmet_party 1 32800\", \"3d_armor:leggings_rainbow 1 13840\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 13840\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_party 1 32800\", \"nether_mobs:dragon_boots 1 9320\", \"\"}", hud_state = "off", yl_commons_player_created = "1615351173", yl_commons_player_joined = "1707494721", played_time = "47081117", digged_nodes = "1731864", placed_nodes = "488189", died = "101", crafted = "211840", jointime = "1615351173", bitten = "0", ["hud_manager:spawnit:hud_enabled"] = "y", ["stamina:level"] = "16", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "6.5", xp = "2345943", ["petz:werewolf"] = "1", ["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "20", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1", yl_commons_thankyou = "377", ["signslib:pos"] = "(1273,10,516)", partychat = "party", inflicted_damage = "6491242", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\"}", punch_count = "328176", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"y\"] = 52, [\"z\"] = 214, [\"x\"] = 2810}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1692114993, [\"last_heal\"] = 1615504208}", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", repellant = "0", ["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"speed\"] = 2, [\"gravity\"] = 1}" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = FFPbzR6eturg5OPJm0h0cHfmvHl9eKEl ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20240210T035854.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 1d 9h 18min 1s | max lag: 0.606s | clients (15/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Bailiff, Davidsoft, daydream, flux, IAM24, Isadora, Ivan9, jackofthebean000, LeetPeet, Service, smashingpumpkins, Sokomine, taonza12, uhhh ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 1281 8 536 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction FFPbzR6eturg5OPJm0h0cHfmvHl9eKEl D2691E 1281 8 536 ```

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AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2024-02-10 03:58:54 +00:00

AspireMint commented

2024-02-10 15:59:27 +00:00

no crumbly ability

Please no :(

no choppy ability

Maybe, but i would keep it as is, to not confuse new (MC, etc.) players.

> no crumbly ability Please no :( > no choppy ability Maybe, but i would keep it as is, to not confuse new (MC, etc.) players.

rewired_X commented

2024-02-10 23:24:13 +00:00

I think choppy should be limited to just the axes, since apparently its on the player hand too ...

AliasAlreadyTaken added the

1. kind/enhancement

3. source/integration

2. prio/controversial

1. kind/balancing

labels 2024-02-11 01:03:28 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2024-02-11 01:49:48 +00:00

Not having crumbly and choppy will make a "cold" start very very hard.

DragonWrangler commented

2024-02-11 03:48:18 +00:00

I think choppy should be limited to just the axes, since apparently its on the player hand too ...

though choppy items are already hard to cut, why make it harder for new players ?

This suggestion is going to make the start for new players harder, imo.

> I think choppy should be limited to just the axes, since apparently its on the player hand too ... though choppy items are already hard to cut, why make it harder for new players ? This suggestion is going to make the start for new players harder, imo.

AzelfYL commented

2024-02-11 05:08:02 +00:00

no crumbly ability

No, no, and no. Not being able to dig out even dirt from what I've been seeing basically makes even making a basic shelter for noob players next to impossible.

no choppy ability

Possibly. I don't think the hand should be able to have choppy. I think you should only really start to learn that choppy exists when you inevitably start making axes.

> no crumbly ability No, no, and no. Not being able to dig out even dirt from what I've been seeing basically makes even making a basic shelter for noob players next to impossible. > no choppy ability Possibly. I don't think the hand should be able to have choppy. I think you should only really start to learn that choppy exists when you inevitably start making axes.

Bla commented

2024-02-11 09:10:59 +00:00

Warning: Don´t get confused by mod "choppy" and digging group "choppy"
https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/items/nodes_items_crafting.html#tools-capabilities-and-dig-types

Warning: Don´t get confused by mod "choppy" and digging group "choppy" https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/items/nodes_items_crafting.html#tools-capabilities-and-dig-types

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flux added the

5. result/wontfix

label 2024-02-11 18:05:56 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken was unassigned by flux

2024-02-11 18:05:59 +00:00

flux commented

2024-02-11 18:07:10 +00:00

i mostly wrote this because i (again) accidentally dug up a piece of my farm while trying to just harvest crops. i think there's another issue somewhere (#1953) about allowing players to individually control the abilities of their hand, but i never finished that because formspecs. closing this because we certainly won't do it this way.

flux closed this issue

2024-02-11 18:07:10 +00:00

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