whosit reports: goblin option text is bad, cha ... #5918

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yourland-report · 2024-01-06T14:56:47Z

yourland-report commented

2024-01-06 14:56:47 +00:00

whosit reports a bug:

goblin option text is bad, change "wait, what? noooo" to something like "let's go!". It confused me first time, it's probably confusing newcomers and it's hard to explain.
Yes it's funny first time. But I've seen many times how newcomers teleport up on the catapult to just walk down from it again and again before they figure out what to click.
The confusion comes from using "Noooo" as a confirmation for action.

Player position:

{
	z = 1226,
	x = 2147,
	y = 18.5
}

Player look:

{
	z = -0.87384122610092,
	x = -0.18765449523926,
	y = -0.44853919744492
}

Player information:

{
	state = "Active",
	lang_code = "ru",
	minor = 8,
	version_string = "5.8.0",
	formspec_version = 7,
	protocol_version = 42,
	max_rtt = 6.2470002174377,
	ip_version = 6,
	min_rtt = 0.041999999433756,
	avg_rtt = 0.043999999761581,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 4.3380002975464,
	avg_jitter = 0.0010000020265579,
	connection_uptime = 22620,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	major = 5
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		hud_state = "on",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "57.5",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_heal\"] = 1687691946, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1704531307, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = 13093, [\"x\"] = -13010, [\"y\"] = 71}}",
		digged_nodes = "305405",
		xp = "207756",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1704530408",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(-1937,51,3715)",
		partychat = "party",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		died = "769",
		crafted = "70757",
		punch_count = "39818",
		inflicted_damage = "605692",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "159",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1",
		repellant = "0",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "20",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "3",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1615221933",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 2920\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 2920\", \"shields:shield_crystal 1 2920\", \"3d_armor:helmet_crystal 1 2920\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 2920\", \"\"}",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		played_time = "6813015",
		xp_redo_hud_color = "0x0000ff",
		["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"speed\"] = 2, [\"gravity\"] = 1}",
		jointime = "1615221933",
		bitten = "0",
		placed_nodes = "88440",
		["stamina:level"] = "18",
		lagometer = "1"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = 7IxYhHxn7NzCgt7L97KMbbHCHfAd6WzV

Profiler save:

profile-20240106T145646.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 3d 6h 41min 1s | max lag: 0.747s | clients (22/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Aliza, azyquiviensdemars, Bailiff, Boot, crankyape, DanteLeo, daydream, DragonWrangler1, geomagas, jackofthebean000, Keya, Lucien_II, Lupercus, Murmel, nee, neofelis, poppyasdan, Service, suavestbeatle89, Sybil, whosit

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 2147 19 1226

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction 7IxYhHxn7NzCgt7L97KMbbHCHfAd6WzV D2691E 2147 19 1226

whosit reports a bug: > goblin option text is bad, change `"wait, what? noooo"` to something like `"let's go!"`. It confused me first time, it's probably confusing newcomers and it's hard to explain. > Yes it's funny first time. But I've seen many times how newcomers teleport up on the catapult to just walk down from it again and again before they figure out what to click. > The confusion comes from using "Noooo" as a confirmation for action. Player position: ``` { z = 1226, x = 2147, y = 18.5 } ``` Player look: ``` { z = -0.87384122610092, x = -0.18765449523926, y = -0.44853919744492 } ``` Player information: ``` { state = "Active", lang_code = "ru", minor = 8, version_string = "5.8.0", formspec_version = 7, protocol_version = 42, max_rtt = 6.2470002174377, ip_version = 6, min_rtt = 0.041999999433756, avg_rtt = 0.043999999761581, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 4.3380002975464, avg_jitter = 0.0010000020265579, connection_uptime = 22620, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, major = 5 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { hud_state = "on", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "57.5", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", yl_church = "return {[\"last_heal\"] = 1687691946, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1704531307, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = 13093, [\"x\"] = -13010, [\"y\"] = 71}}", digged_nodes = "305405", xp = "207756", yl_commons_player_joined = "1704530408", ["signslib:pos"] = "(-1937,51,3715)", partychat = "party", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", died = "769", crafted = "70757", punch_count = "39818", inflicted_damage = "605692", yl_commons_thankyou = "159", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1", repellant = "0", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", ["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "20", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "3", yl_commons_player_created = "1615221933", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 2920\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 2920\", \"shields:shield_crystal 1 2920\", \"3d_armor:helmet_crystal 1 2920\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 2920\", \"\"}", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", played_time = "6813015", xp_redo_hud_color = "0x0000ff", ["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"speed\"] = 2, [\"gravity\"] = 1}", jointime = "1615221933", bitten = "0", placed_nodes = "88440", ["stamina:level"] = "18", lagometer = "1" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = 7IxYhHxn7NzCgt7L97KMbbHCHfAd6WzV ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20240106T145646.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 3d 6h 41min 1s | max lag: 0.747s | clients (22/52): AliasAlreadyTaken, Aliza, azyquiviensdemars, Bailiff, Boot, crankyape, DanteLeo, daydream, DragonWrangler1, geomagas, jackofthebean000, Keya, Lucien_II, Lupercus, Murmel, nee, neofelis, poppyasdan, Service, suavestbeatle89, Sybil, whosit ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 2147 19 1226 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction 7IxYhHxn7NzCgt7L97KMbbHCHfAd6WzV D2691E 2147 19 1226 ``` ![farewell.jpg](/attachments/570c3e82-745a-40d1-b219-c8266b860f0b)

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AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2024-01-06 14:56:47 +00:00

flux added the

1. kind/balancing

3. source/ingame

labels 2024-01-06 22:01:23 +00:00

flux commented

2024-01-06 22:01:49 +00:00

i've seen a lot of players get confused by this

Jammy commented

2024-01-06 23:45:51 +00:00

Yes. And also the catapult is a bit too far from spawn. perhaps add a route from main square to goblin. Make sure it is properly marked.

Minetest13 commented

2024-01-10 13:38:44 +00:00

The confusion is worse because of the "Farewell!" cancel option in all NPC dialogue. I'll admit that the first time I used the catapult, despite knowing "Farewell" was only a cancel button, I chose it first anyway :P. To non-native English speakers, I'm sure it's just as confusing.

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whosit commented

2024-01-21 11:13:24 +00:00

AspireMint suggested replacing "nooo" with: