If the distancing rule applies to faction areas as well ... #5834

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Boot · 2023-12-26T11:55:39Z

Boot commented

2023-12-26 11:55:39 +00:00

... then there was clearly too much construction going on here near Wahi Wera (2517,13,2119) just next block.

It should be clearly regulated whether the distance rule also applies to faction areas and quest areas. And it should also be clear whether it applies to new areas or also to built things. And whether this rule applies server-wide or "on a case-by-case basis".

... then there was clearly too much construction going on here near Wahi Wera (2517,13,2119) just next block. It should be clearly regulated whether the distance rule also applies to **faction areas and quest areas**. And it should also be clear whether it applies to new areas or also to built things. And whether this rule applies server-wide or "on a case-by-case basis".

rewired_X commented

2023-12-26 13:20:46 +00:00

if this gets implemented, the temp and advice areas by Xonon and wishingirl are all of a sudden, too close to Wahi Wera.
Protected builds.
Better make up your minds...

if this gets implemented, the temp and advice areas by Xonon and wishingirl are all of a sudden, too close to Wahi Wera. Protected builds. Better make up your minds...

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rewired_X commented

2023-12-26 13:23:12 +00:00

this massive group of structures would also be too close now. there's more aside from what's shown.

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Boot commented

2023-12-26 14:23:25 +00:00

... areas by Xonon and wishingirl are ...

older than the distance rule.

> ... areas by Xonon and wishingirl are ... older than the distance rule.

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flux commented

2023-12-26 19:24:39 +00:00

... areas by Xonon and wishingirl are ...

older than the distance rule.

there's a number of protection areas nearby that aren't though.

> > ... areas by Xonon and wishingirl are ... > > older than the distance rule. there's a number of protection areas nearby that *aren't* though.

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AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by Boot

2024-01-15 21:00:17 +00:00

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Boot commented

2024-01-17 17:14:11 +00:00

Either a rule applies or it doesn't. And if it applies, then it must be enforced. So get rid of the freshly built.

Otherwise, it would be better to designate a piece of each quest or faction area as an open area. This is how you determine the location and the size. Such an area is useful for anvils. You make a backup of this area in advance, which is easy to reinsert later. On the other hand, no wild growth is tolerated at the known distances. Anything else will only lead to further devastation around these areas.

Either a rule applies or it doesn't. And if it applies, then it must be enforced. **So get rid of the freshly built.** Otherwise, it would be better to designate a piece of each quest or faction area as an open area. This is how you determine the location and the size. Such an area is useful for anvils. You make a backup of this area in advance, which is easy to reinsert later. On the other hand, no wild growth is tolerated at the known distances. Anything else will only lead to further devastation around these areas.

rewired_X commented

2024-01-17 18:34:48 +00:00

im leaning more towards "let's just get rid of EVERY build created after the distance rule and call it a day" but whatever, that's just my thoughts, and it leans more in towards what the title suggests.
considering the area around wahi is already a mess, you do you.

edit: on another note, this issue should have been created long ago, and not now.
If this is a problem, the line should have been drawn when everyone else started building their crap near wahi and not brought up now.
I'm not trying to go against anything, but I'm also not supporting anything. I think its stupid that only now this becomes an issue, when long ago it should have already been one.

im leaning more towards "let's just get rid of *EVERY* build created after the distance rule and call it a day" but whatever, that's just my thoughts, and it leans more in towards what the title suggests. considering the area around wahi is already a mess, you do you. edit: on another note, this issue should have been created long ago, and not now. If this is a problem, the line should have been drawn *when everyone else started building their crap near wahi* and not brought up now. I'm not trying to go against anything, but I'm also not supporting anything. I think its stupid that only now this becomes an issue, when long ago it should have already been one.

rewired_X commented

2024-03-13 12:31:03 +00:00

2 months ago I screamed at my computer just to write a message.
2 months later, guess what? More new builds are too close to wahi.
I'd rather just see everything too close to wahi get razed. I also still think its absurd that this issue was made much later after the problem arose.

2 months ago I screamed at my computer just to write a message. 2 months later, guess what? More new builds are too close to wahi. I'd rather just see everything too close to wahi get razed. I also still think its absurd that this issue was made much later after the problem arose.

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2024-03-13 14:01:03 +00:00

Many of those are now scheduled for removal.

This affects

area 7745
The unprotected Voice waiting hut at around 2523 20 2120
A nice, but unprotected hut at around 2468 15 1910
area 4444, owned by ItsTempo (started, but never finished
an unprotected hut by pauGAM33Rxd99 and PereGAmer at around 2268 50 1940
area 4304
area 6450

This does not affect because older than distance rule:

area 822 by Aura
areas 1780 by wishingirl and 1599 by Xonon

This does currently not but maybe later affect

area 3842 by niceride
area 4921 by niceride
area 2134 by upie

Not too close, but still a ruin nearby for a long time:

areas 2667 by Faadu
areas 4737 by Faadu/Infi_power

questionable

areas 3952 by dragon014/STEALTH/Hamster64

Many of those are now scheduled for removal. This affects - area 7745 - The unprotected Voice waiting hut at around 2523 20 2120 - A nice, but unprotected hut at around 2468 15 1910 - area 4444, owned by ItsTempo (started, but never finished - an unprotected hut by pauGAM33Rxd99 and PereGAmer at around 2268 50 1940 - area 4304 - area 6450 This does not affect because older than distance rule: - area 822 by Aura - areas 1780 by wishingirl and 1599 by Xonon This does currently not but maybe later affect - area 3842 by niceride - area 4921 by niceride - area 2134 by upie Not too close, but still a ruin nearby for a long time: - areas 2667 by Faadu - areas 4737 by Faadu/Infi_power questionable - areas 3952 by dragon014/STEALTH/Hamster64

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flux commented

2024-03-14 03:22:58 +00:00

i don't mind executing orders about removing areas cuz distance rules, if there's clearly a mandate for me to do it. one question though - if the protected area has anything valuable in it, should we put it in the lost-and-found, remove it, or let anyone that finds it take it?

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