AliasAlreadyTaken reports: Discuss ability to jail onesel ... #5659

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yourland-report · 2023-12-12T10:17:51Z

yourland-report commented

2023-12-12 10:17:51 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken reports a bug:

Discuss ability to jail oneself

Player position:

{
	y = 18,
	z = 1173.7349853516,
	x = 1979.3000488281
}

Player look:

{
	y = -0.099319748580456,
	z = 0.0045153051614761,
	x = 0.9950453042984
}

Player information:

{
	max_rtt = 1.444000005722,
	major = 5,
	minor = 7,
	version_string = "5.7.0",
	ip_version = 6,
	min_rtt = 0.014999999664724,
	avg_rtt = 0.017000000923872,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 1.347000002861,
	avg_jitter = 0,
	connection_uptime = 29516,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	protocol_version = 42,
	formspec_version = 6,
	lang_code = "de",
	state = "Active"
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		played_time = "96607575",
		digged_nodes = "140432",
		placed_nodes = "181846",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		crafted = "4788",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "57",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "1390",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		partypvp = "true",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.67421e+09",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		lagometer = "1",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0",
		punch_count = "65127",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_heal\"] = 1683837139, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = 2251, [\"y\"] = -164, [\"z\"] = 1401}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1683839371}",
		["arena_lib_editor.spawner_ID"] = "0",
		szutil_watch = "return {}",
		inflicted_damage = "2991780",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(1993,17,990)",
		repellant = "0",
		["ocean_build.forbidden"] = "true",
		partychat = "party",
		died = "1591",
		bitten = "0",
		hud_state = "on",
		arenalib_watchID = "0",
		["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "19",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "4",
		["arena_lib_editor.team_ID"] = "0",
		["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"speed\"] = 1, [\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"gravity\"] = 1, [\"jump\"] = 1, [\"sneak\"] = true}",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1702346783",
		xp_redo_hud_color = "0xFFFF00",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		yl_audio_state = "off",
		["ethereal:fly_timer"] = "-99",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "12",
		xp = "0",
		["sethome:home"] = "(1983.4349365234,17.5,1183.5950927734)",
		["arena_lib_editor.players_number"] = "0",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:helmet_party\", \"3d_armor:boots_party\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_party\", \"\", \"\", \"\"}",
		["stamina:level"] = "0",
		team = "STAFF"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = khEQJQdlKIn9kQkBcrmxPAk6pP7sdku8

Profiler save:

profile-20231212T101751.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 5d 9h 4min 47s | max lag: 0.545s | clients (14/52): ALCOHOL2, ALCOHOL3, AliasAlreadyTaken, Bingo, Chache, DannyVimaranes, daydream, flux, Heron, Jammy, Murmel, Service, sillyman, tagtraum

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 1979 18 1174

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction khEQJQdlKIn9kQkBcrmxPAk6pP7sdku8 D2691E 1979 18 1174

AliasAlreadyTaken reports a bug: > Discuss ability to jail oneself Player position: ``` { y = 18, z = 1173.7349853516, x = 1979.3000488281 } ``` Player look: ``` { y = -0.099319748580456, z = 0.0045153051614761, x = 0.9950453042984 } ``` Player information: ``` { max_rtt = 1.444000005722, major = 5, minor = 7, version_string = "5.7.0", ip_version = 6, min_rtt = 0.014999999664724, avg_rtt = 0.017000000923872, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 1.347000002861, avg_jitter = 0, connection_uptime = 29516, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, protocol_version = 42, formspec_version = 6, lang_code = "de", state = "Active" } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { played_time = "96607575", digged_nodes = "140432", placed_nodes = "181846", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", crafted = "4788", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "57", yl_commons_thankyou = "1390", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", partypvp = "true", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.67421e+09", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", lagometer = "1", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0", punch_count = "65127", yl_church = "return {[\"last_heal\"] = 1683837139, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = 2251, [\"y\"] = -164, [\"z\"] = 1401}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1683839371}", ["arena_lib_editor.spawner_ID"] = "0", szutil_watch = "return {}", inflicted_damage = "2991780", ["signslib:pos"] = "(1993,17,990)", repellant = "0", ["ocean_build.forbidden"] = "true", partychat = "party", died = "1591", bitten = "0", hud_state = "on", arenalib_watchID = "0", ["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "19", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "4", ["arena_lib_editor.team_ID"] = "0", ["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"speed\"] = 1, [\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"gravity\"] = 1, [\"jump\"] = 1, [\"sneak\"] = true}", yl_commons_player_joined = "1702346783", xp_redo_hud_color = "0xFFFF00", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", yl_audio_state = "off", ["ethereal:fly_timer"] = "-99", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "12", xp = "0", ["sethome:home"] = "(1983.4349365234,17.5,1183.5950927734)", ["arena_lib_editor.players_number"] = "0", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:helmet_party\", \"3d_armor:boots_party\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_party\", \"\", \"\", \"\"}", ["stamina:level"] = "0", team = "STAFF" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = khEQJQdlKIn9kQkBcrmxPAk6pP7sdku8 ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20231212T101751.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 5d 9h 4min 47s | max lag: 0.545s | clients (14/52): ALCOHOL2, ALCOHOL3, AliasAlreadyTaken, Bingo, Chache, DannyVimaranes, daydream, flux, Heron, Jammy, Murmel, Service, sillyman, tagtraum ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 1979 18 1174 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction khEQJQdlKIn9kQkBcrmxPAk6pP7sdku8 D2691E 1979 18 1174 ```

AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2023-12-12 10:17:51 +00:00

Boot commented

2023-12-12 16:52:24 +00:00

I am not in favour of being able to go to prison yourself. However, this mechanism could be used to allow players to go to special areas, such as a training ground for specific occasions. If the bailiffs are informed at the same time, they could join in and lead the training.

rewired_X commented

2023-12-12 20:50:52 +00:00

If we're talking any player can imprison themselves, not in favor. Get the wrong people knowing about it and chat will be flooded with accounts putting themselves in jail. (Hell, on CREATIVE (vf.cash's before it was shut down) mods were constantly putting themselves in jail causing a chat flood and ton of drama over it)

If it's restricted to staff or bailiffs then im vaguely in favor.

If we're talking any player can imprison themselves, not in favor. Get the wrong people knowing about it and chat will be flooded with accounts putting themselves in jail. (Hell, on CREATIVE (vf.cash's before it was shut down) mods were constantly putting themselves in jail causing a chat flood and ton of drama over it) If it's restricted to staff or bailiffs then im vaguely in favor.

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2023-12-12 22:50:40 +00:00

No, players will not be able to imprison themselves.

This issues purely deals with the rare case someone who has the jail privs might want to imprison themselves. The question is: Is there a usecase where one might want to imprison oneself?

No, players will not be able to imprison themselves. This issues purely deals with the rare case someone who has the jail privs might want to imprison themselves. The question is: Is there a usecase where one might want to imprison oneself?

AliasAlreadyTaken added the

4. step/discussion

1. kind/enhancement

labels 2023-12-12 22:50:57 +00:00

Boot commented

2023-12-13 15:06:35 +00:00

If the jail will be in the new bailiff office later, I can well imagine that they will also make visits there. Someone should bring bread and water...

No seriously, you could possibly describe them as bailiff signs, which would be an additional way of communicating. Or train replanting on a mini-public farm.

If the jail will be in the new bailiff office later, I can well imagine that they will also make visits there. Someone should bring bread and water... No seriously, you could possibly describe them as bailiff signs, which would be an additional way of communicating. Or train replanting on a mini-public farm.

flux commented

2023-12-13 19:25:26 +00:00

i don't see any reason to "allow" it, but why prevent it?

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2023-12-13 21:11:10 +00:00

i don't see any reason to "allow" it, but why prevent it?

The question arose when a bailiff tried to quickly jail a spammer who impersonate that very bailiff. In the heat of the moment the bailiff used autocomplete, which targetted himself instead of the spammer.

The question this issue asks is: Does anyone see any legit usecase in which a bailiff or other person with jail privs needs to jail oneself? If there is no such usecase, then I would like to disable "jailing oneself" to prevent accidents.

> i don't see any reason to "allow" it, but why prevent it? The question arose when a bailiff tried to quickly jail a spammer who impersonate that very bailiff. In the heat of the moment the bailiff used autocomplete, which targetted himself instead of the spammer. The question this issue asks is: Does anyone see any legit usecase in which a bailiff or other person with jail privs needs to jail oneself? If there is no such usecase, then I would like to disable "jailing oneself" to prevent accidents.

DragonWrangler commented

2023-12-13 22:25:04 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken: I see no legit usecase for someone jailing themself.

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rewired_X commented

2023-12-13 23:29:52 +00:00

I am shifting towards neutrality now, unless you are trolling there really isn't a reason to jail yourself.

Bla commented

2023-12-14 06:56:16 +00:00

...Does anyone see any legit usecase in which a bailiff or other person with jail privs needs to jail oneself? ...

Testing /jail command in the future but using an alt or another player for that seems way simpler than undoing accidental self jailing 😆

>...Does anyone see any legit usecase in which a bailiff or other person with jail privs needs to jail oneself? ... Testing /jail command in the future but using an alt or another player for that seems way simpler than undoing accidental self jailing 😆

AzelfYL commented

2023-12-29 01:28:36 +00:00

I did sort of jail myself once on another server: a long time ago when i still used the multicrap client, there was a glitch that basically caused me to leak my password on the server, which eventually led me to ban myself until the admin could change my password (and then unban me). However, I think such a scenario should be cosmically rare and if it happens, I think it should be rare enough for you to personally intervene (and anyways we mostly use the PC clients where this shouldn't happen)