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yourland-report commented 2023-09-24 21:07:20 +02:00
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Murmel reports a bug:

Has anything been changed according to the spanwing of snakes? I have been at the place where flux put is snekhunting guide at zoo and after 15 Minutes not a single snake or croc hast spawned. Snake still exist cuz i mand one (land based) this afternoon, but they don't seem to spawn in water anymore

Player position:

{
	x = 2162.3859863281,
	y = 15.5,
	z = 1169.6829833984
}

Player look:

{
	x = -0.98391485214233,
	y = -0.042573165148497,
	z = 0.1734908670187
}

Player information:

{
	formspec_version = 6,
	minor = 7,
	max_rtt = 8.4860000610352,
	ip_version = 6,
	min_rtt = 0.014000000432134,
	avg_rtt = 0.014999999664724,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 6.3039999008179,
	avg_jitter = 0.0010000010952353,
	connection_uptime = 6750,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	major = 5,
	version_string = "5.7.0",
	protocol_version = 42,
	state = "Active",
	lang_code = "de"
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		jointime = "1663422013",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		punch_count = "35278",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "88",
		repellant = "0",
		inflicted_damage = "762450",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.67001e+09",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 5500\", \"3d_armor:helmet_nether 1 11780\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 5500\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 4712\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 5500\", \"\"}",
		hud_state = "on",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1",
		partychat = "party",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		died = "43",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		xp = "600052",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "9",
		["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"new_move\"] = true, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"gravity\"] = 1, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"speed\"] = 2}",
		played_time = "11828369",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1663422013",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1695575724",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0",
		placed_nodes = "117265",
		["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "5",
		crafted = "88107",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(1979,18,1184)",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = 2665, [\"y\"] = 29084, [\"z\"] = 4222}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1695576778}",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "85",
		bitten = "0",
		digged_nodes = "746392",
		["stamina:level"] = "8"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = Gdfb9l9Mv7E98MbArVqe1DBbyGWnQmBZ

Profiler save:

profile-20230924T190720.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 12h 58min 12s | max lag: 0.887s | clients (31/52): afonsan, ALCOHOL3, AliasAlreadyTaken, Arseniy7, Boot, Boris, CaptainCrunch, Chache, dafalite, der_c_aus_a, Empempires, ffelder, flux, Glacierville, hehehaha, Heron, jackofthebean000, jim15, Kalek, koh_lanta, laira, mahou, Mekanik, mrminer, Murmel, nazthelizard122, phillip, Ravise, rheo, Service, Sysmatic

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 2162 16 1170

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction Gdfb9l9Mv7E98MbArVqe1DBbyGWnQmBZ D2691E 2162 16 1170
Murmel reports a bug: > Has anything been changed according to the spanwing of snakes? I have been at the place where flux put is snekhunting guide at zoo and after 15 Minutes not a single snake or croc hast spawned. Snake still exist cuz i mand one (land based) this afternoon, but they don't seem to spawn in water anymore Player position: ``` { x = 2162.3859863281, y = 15.5, z = 1169.6829833984 } ``` Player look: ``` { x = -0.98391485214233, y = -0.042573165148497, z = 0.1734908670187 } ``` Player information: ``` { formspec_version = 6, minor = 7, max_rtt = 8.4860000610352, ip_version = 6, min_rtt = 0.014000000432134, avg_rtt = 0.014999999664724, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 6.3039999008179, avg_jitter = 0.0010000010952353, connection_uptime = 6750, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, major = 5, version_string = "5.7.0", protocol_version = 42, state = "Active", lang_code = "de" } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { jointime = "1663422013", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", punch_count = "35278", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "88", repellant = "0", inflicted_damage = "762450", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.67001e+09", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 5500\", \"3d_armor:helmet_nether 1 11780\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 5500\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 4712\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 5500\", \"\"}", hud_state = "on", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1", partychat = "party", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", died = "43", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", xp = "600052", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "9", ["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"new_move\"] = true, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"gravity\"] = 1, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"speed\"] = 2}", played_time = "11828369", yl_commons_player_created = "1663422013", yl_commons_player_joined = "1695575724", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0", placed_nodes = "117265", ["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "5", crafted = "88107", ["signslib:pos"] = "(1979,18,1184)", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = 2665, [\"y\"] = 29084, [\"z\"] = 4222}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1695576778}", yl_commons_thankyou = "85", bitten = "0", digged_nodes = "746392", ["stamina:level"] = "8" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = Gdfb9l9Mv7E98MbArVqe1DBbyGWnQmBZ ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20230924T190720.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 12h 58min 12s | max lag: 0.887s | clients (31/52): afonsan, ALCOHOL3, AliasAlreadyTaken, Arseniy7, Boot, Boris, CaptainCrunch, Chache, dafalite, der_c_aus_a, Empempires, ffelder, flux, Glacierville, hehehaha, Heron, jackofthebean000, jim15, Kalek, koh_lanta, laira, mahou, Mekanik, mrminer, Murmel, nazthelizard122, phillip, Ravise, rheo, Service, Sysmatic ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 2162 16 1170 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction Gdfb9l9Mv7E98MbArVqe1DBbyGWnQmBZ D2691E 2162 16 1170 ```
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Boot commented 2023-09-24 21:34:45 +02:00
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Unfortunately, I can only confirm this. No snakes in the snake pits. :(

Unfortunately, I can only confirm this. No snakes in the snake pits. :(
Murmel commented 2023-09-25 13:58:20 +02:00
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I see balancing problems coming when there are no more snakes and voice continues to be so active.
Potions are quite helpful for eliminating foci.
Is it possible to install a hotfix?

I see balancing problems coming when there are no more snakes and voice continues to be so active. Potions are quite helpful for eliminating foci. Is it possible to install a hotfix?
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Sokomine commented 2023-09-25 18:54:01 +02:00
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It wasn't particulary funny to obtain snakes before. In the distant past they were far more willing to spawn. Waiting for one to show up isn't exactly...exiting. If that got even worse, then that's definitely bad.

It wasn't particulary funny to obtain snakes before. In the distant past they were far more willing to spawn. Waiting for one to show up isn't exactly...exiting. If that got even worse, then that's definitely bad.
Chache commented 2023-09-25 21:20:33 +02:00
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I don't see why snakes couldn't appear more often in normal deserts or even savannah. The inv potion is already expensive with the mithril lump and the electrumese powder.

I don't see why snakes couldn't appear more often in normal deserts or even savannah. The inv potion is already expensive with the mithril lump and the electrumese powder.
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Murmel commented 2023-09-29 21:10:39 +02:00
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Today I was wandering through some Savanna Biome and found a snake. I observed the nearby lake where no snake spawned, but about 10 or 15 Minutes late another one appeared land based.
Considering you need 3 snakes for one potion they spawn much to rarely

Today I was wandering through some Savanna Biome and found a snake. I observed the nearby lake where no snake spawned, but about 10 or 15 Minutes late another one appeared land based. Considering you need 3 snakes for one potion they spawn much to rarely
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Boot commented 2023-10-14 15:01:19 +02:00
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Please bring back the snakes....

Please bring back the snakes....
Sokomine commented 2023-10-14 21:10:17 +02:00
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I think we have enough confirmation that it's a bug. Snakes on land seem to still exist but are extremly rare.

I think we have enough confirmation that it's a bug. Snakes on land seem to still exist but are extremly rare.
rewired_X commented 2023-10-15 15:45:45 +02:00
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This is absolutely a bug because snakes really don't spawn as often anymore, land or sea

This is absolutely a bug because snakes really don't spawn as often anymore, land or sea
Murmel commented 2023-10-16 19:54:05 +02:00
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Just had a look on testserver. It's also quite snakeless

Just had a look on testserver. It's also quite snakeless
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AliasAlreadyTaken commented 2023-10-22 05:22:02 +02:00
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Snakes and beavers were registered in the wrong or nonexisting biomes.

Snakes and beavers were registered in the wrong or nonexisting biomes.
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Murmel commented 2023-10-22 21:00:44 +02:00
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They still do not appear in Savanah lakes where they did before.
Have they been aasigned to another biome?

They still do not appear in Savanah lakes where they did before. Have they been aasigned to another biome?
AliasAlreadyTaken commented 2023-10-23 12:32:07 +02:00
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Upstream disabled them spawning in water. I don't know why, but I suspect they have some reason

Upstream disabled them spawning in water. I don't know why, but I suspect they have some reason
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Murmel commented 2023-10-24 20:54:48 +02:00
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That makes them extremely rare now.
And so are Invisibility potions.
I caught two snakes since update and that was by accident. When I was trying to find some in the same biome, none of them spawned.
If we cannot change that, maybe we can change recipe for invisibility potions?

That makes them extremely rare now. And so are Invisibility potions. I caught two snakes since update and that was by accident. When I was trying to find some in the same biome, **none** of them spawned. If we cannot change that, maybe we can change recipe for invisibility potions?
Sokomine commented 2023-10-24 23:44:18 +02:00
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I can confirm Murmels' experience. I havn't found any yet either while looking for them in a long time.

It's very bad if things get rarer than before. People who started earlier have an advantage - if they collected/crafted crazy amounts of the thing that became rare while it was still possible to get those things. I don't think that's good for a server.

We need obtainable invisibility potions. They weren't exactly cheap before either.

I can confirm Murmels' experience. I havn't found any yet either while looking for them in a long time. It's very bad if things get rarer than before. People who started earlier have an advantage - if they collected/crafted crazy amounts of the thing that became rare while it was still possible to get those things. I don't think that's good for a server. We need obtainable invisibility potions. They weren't exactly cheap before either.
AliasAlreadyTaken commented 2023-10-25 15:41:19 +02:00
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They were added to a lot more biomes and I'll look into water snakes, too. There is now also logging that allows us to see how many snakes spawn and where they do that.

They were added to a lot more biomes and I'll look into water snakes, too. There is now also logging that allows us to see how many snakes spawn and where they do that.
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flux commented 2023-11-08 20:41:34 +01:00
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if upstream fixed snakes spawning in water w/out fixing their spawn rate on land, i'd certainly consider that a bug. for reference, once spawnit (#4592), there won't be water snakes anymore, but they'll spawn in deserts, savannas, and jungles just fine.

if upstream fixed snakes spawning in water w/out fixing their spawn rate on land, i'd certainly consider that a bug. for reference, once spawnit (#4592), there won't be water snakes anymore, but they'll spawn in deserts, savannas, and jungles just fine.
Sokomine commented 2023-11-10 04:24:14 +01:00
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On the test server, snakes ought to spawn in water again. The time interval at which the snakes decide about showing up has been decreased there considerably for testing. Without that they show up reluctantly. But they do show up.

Snake spawning in water was commented out. I assume the dev forgot to re-enable it after testing.

The names of biomes had to be adjusted for water spawning. That's normal for our slightly uncommon biomes.

Feel free to test on the test server on port 30001.

On the test server, snakes ought to spawn in water again. The time interval at which the snakes decide about showing up has been decreased there considerably for testing. Without that they show up reluctantly. But they do show up. Snake spawning in water was commented out. I assume the dev forgot to re-enable it after testing. The names of biomes had to be adjusted for water spawning. That's normal for our slightly uncommon biomes. Feel free to test on the test server on port 30001.
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AliasAlreadyTaken commented 2023-11-27 02:10:14 +01:00
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I'm in favour of letting spawnit handle all our spawn. If spawnit can't spawn water snakes, then I#d prefer there be no water snakes for the sake of simplicity and a unified approach to spawning.

I'm in favour of letting spawnit handle all our spawn. If spawnit can't spawn water snakes, then I#d prefer there be no water snakes for the sake of simplicity and a unified approach to spawning.
flux commented 2023-11-27 07:26:51 +01:00
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If spawnit can't spawn water snakes, then I#d prefer there be no water snakes for the sake of simplicity and a unified approach to spawning.

spawnit can certainly do water snakes, but i considered that to be a bug and not a feature. if people want snakes to spawn in water, i can certainly add that again.

> If spawnit can't spawn water snakes, then I#d prefer there be no water snakes for the sake of simplicity and a unified approach to spawning. spawnit can certainly do water snakes, but i considered that to be a bug and not a feature. if people want snakes to spawn in water, i can certainly add that again.
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Chache commented 2023-11-28 01:33:13 +01:00
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I can live with snakes not spawning in water as long as they spawn normally on land in deserts, savannah and jungle as they seem to be correctly doing now.

I can live with snakes not spawning in water as long as they spawn normally on land in deserts, savannah and jungle as they seem to be correctly doing now.
Boot commented 2023-11-28 17:23:33 +01:00
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And I would love to have them in the water again.

And I would love to have them in the water again.
AliasAlreadyTaken commented 2023-11-29 03:07:58 +01:00
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If spawnit has no issues spawning them in the water, then let's have water snakes again.

If spawnit has no issues spawning them in the water, then let's have water snakes again.
Murmel commented 2023-11-29 08:02:20 +01:00
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I have been hunting snake with betzi yesterday and we found 6 sankes (everytim in paisr of two) after a shor time.
Then for quite a while nothing happened in the area we were hunting.
After betzi left I had a stroll along the neighbouring parts of the same biome and found another two snakes again in a short time.
I had same experience when hunting in other places: In the first minutes I found snakes (but when hunting alone only one appeared at the same time) and after a while no more new snakes appeared. Is there a timer preventing snakes from spawning for a while when some have been caught in an area?
And does the number of snakes depend on the people in the area?

I have been hunting snake with betzi yesterday and we found 6 sankes (everytim in paisr of two) after a shor time. Then for quite a while nothing happened in the area we were hunting. After betzi left I had a stroll along the neighbouring parts of the same biome and found another two snakes again in a short time. I had same experience when hunting in other places: In the first minutes I found snakes (but when hunting alone only one appeared at the same time) and after a while no more new snakes appeared. Is there a timer preventing snakes from spawning for a while when some have been caught in an area? And does the number of snakes depend on the people in the area?
flux commented 2023-11-30 21:14:45 +01:00
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enabled water spawning snakes in yl_spawnit: f72688b3a1

enabled water spawning snakes in yl_spawnit: https://gitea.your-land.de/flux/yl_spawnit/commit/f72688b3a1f50534e7785f483395d796515509a8
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Murmel commented 2023-12-02 10:27:48 +01:00
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Pium has shown me a place where snakes spawn almost like before. It's a sandstone desert biome.

Pium has shown me a place where snakes spawn almost like before. It's a sandstone desert biome.
AliasAlreadyTaken commented 2023-12-03 23:24:22 +01:00
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spawnit has water snakes now :)

QA spawnit has water snakes now :)
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flux commented 2023-12-18 00:50:06 +01:00
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