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NPCs should have a way to take internal notes #5295

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opened 2023-09-18 21:20:52 +02:00 by Boot · 10 comments
Boot commented 2023-09-18 21:20:52 +02:00
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Ok, of course you can do everything with a pen and paper. And you can also take a d_x, write everything down there and never link to it. But it would be better to have some kind of d_info and take notes there.

Ok, of course you can do everything with a pen and paper. And you can also take a d_x, write everything down there and never link to it. But it would be better to have some kind of d_info and take notes there.
Sokomine commented 2023-09-18 21:26:12 +02:00
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You mean a dialog[d_id].d_info field per dialog? Where on earth shall I squeeze that in?

You mean a dialog[d_id].d_info field per dialog? Where on earth shall I squeeze that in?
Boot commented 2023-09-18 21:30:19 +02:00
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No, not one d_info per dialogue. One d_info per NPC.

No, not one d_info per dialogue. One d_info per NPC.
Boot commented 2023-09-18 22:28:28 +02:00
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There is still room for the "Info" button.

There is still room for the "Info" button.
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Boot commented 2023-09-20 16:08:30 +02:00
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A lot of NPCs talk pretty tinny and boring, so for to be more believable and individual in the dialogues give them:

  • a description of the character
  • special characteristics of the NPC
  • linguistic peculiarities and habits
  • origin, relationships, lots of lore
  • friendships / enmities
  • personal goals / motivations / background

It doesn't have to be all in the dialogues, but it allows the author to write the dialogues in this sense and thus much more vividly.

What else can you want to write down?

  • collect all data on the history (since when and where)
  • what kind of trading
  • quest ideas
A lot of NPCs talk pretty tinny and boring, so for to be more believable and individual in the dialogues give them: - a description of the character - special characteristics of the NPC - linguistic peculiarities and habits - origin, relationships, lots of lore - friendships / enmities - personal goals / motivations / background It doesn't have to be all in the dialogues, but it allows the author to write the dialogues in this sense and thus much more vividly. What else can you want to write down? - collect all data on the history (since when and where) - what kind of trading - quest ideas
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Sokomine commented 2023-11-01 21:42:59 +01:00
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Implemented in newest version. The button is called "Notes".

Implemented in newest version. The button is called "Notes".
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flux commented 2023-12-18 00:40:58 +01:00
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this is live

this is live
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Boot commented 2024-03-27 10:09:12 +01:00
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Would it be possible, if I wrote something there and do ESC it will not be away? Same with the TAB.

Would it be possible, if I wrote something there and do ESC it will not be away? Same with the TAB.
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flux commented 2024-03-27 21:08:25 +01:00
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Would it be possible, if I wrote something there and do ESC it will not be away? Same with the TAB.

no, not even theoretically possible without dumping formspec and replacing it with a better GUI in the client/engine. see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6527 for the (lack of) progress on that.

> Would it be possible, if I wrote something there and do ESC it will not be away? Same with the TAB. no, not even theoretically possible without dumping formspec and replacing it with a better GUI in the client/engine. see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6527 for the (lack of) progress on that.
Boot commented 2024-03-27 23:16:31 +01:00
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Ok, ok, its too special. After I loose twice long texts this way I had have to learn to save it as much as I can. So issue should be closed. The Notes function itself is perfect.

Ok, ok, its too special. After I loose twice long texts this way I had have to learn to save it as much as I can. So issue should be closed. The Notes function itself is perfect.
flux commented 2024-03-28 02:57:10 +01:00
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Ok, ok, its too special. After I loose twice long texts this way I had have to learn to save it as much as I can. So issue should be closed. The Notes function itself is perfect.

believe me that i wish formspec wasn't terrible, but i'm certainly not going to be the one to fix it. there's an issue somewhere in our system about losing emails accidentally, another about books, and another about posters.

> Ok, ok, its too special. After I loose twice long texts this way I had have to learn to save it as much as I can. So issue should be closed. The Notes function itself is perfect. believe me that i wish formspec wasn't terrible, but i'm certainly not going to be the one to fix it. there's an issue somewhere in our system about losing emails accidentally, another about books, and another about posters.
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