flux reports: nyans (and rainbows) are regis ... #5096

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yourland-report · 2023-08-10T20:23:43Z

yourland-report commented

2023-08-10 20:23:43 +00:00

flux reports a bug:

nyans (and rainbows) are registered as fuels?

Player position:

{
	z = 624,
	x = 1289,
	y = 47.700000762939
}

Player look:

{
	z = 0.6974104642868,
	x = 0.43629816174507,
	y = -0.5685618519783
}

Player information:

{
	protocol_version = 42,
	formspec_version = 6,
	max_rtt = 3,
	state = "Active",
	connection_uptime = 12711,
	ip_version = 6,
	min_rtt = 0.16699999570847,
	avg_rtt = 0.17599999904633,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 2.8229999542236,
	avg_jitter = 0.0090000033378601,
	lang_code = "",
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	minor = 8,
	major = 5,
	version_string = "5.8.0-dev-7388c87ad"
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		yl_commons_thankyou = "326",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1615351173",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1",
		partychat = "party",
		digged_nodes = "1714312",
		jointime = "1615351173",
		bitten = "0",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = 1227, [\"x\"] = 35, [\"y\"] = 38}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1615504208, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1687231432}",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"shields:shield_rainbow 1 8176\", \"3d_armor:helmet_rainbow 1 8176\", \"3d_armor:leggings_rainbow 1 8176\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_rainbow 1 8176\", \"nether_mobs:dragon_boots 1 20420\", \"\"}",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1691686334",
		played_time = "40155303",
		punch_count = "306059",
		placed_nodes = "478602",
		died = "100",
		["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"speed\"] = 2, [\"gravity\"] = 1}",
		xp = "2296060",
		hud_state = "on",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(1275,70,546)",
		repellant = "0",
		crafted = "203218",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1",
		inflicted_damage = "6036212",
		["stamina:level"] = "4",
		["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "20",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\"}",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "92"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = cSN7WrT2CBYEXRTL3e4Q0FIX31OGtzW6

Profiler save:

profile-20230810T202343.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 4d 54min 54s | max lag: 1.36s | clients (30/52): afonsan, AliasAlreadyTaken, Andromeda, Bambusmann, BenOnly, Bingo, bizon, Boot, copper144, copper248, daydream, debiankaios, der_c_aus_a, DragonWrangler1, FailFactory, flux, InitialD_, JeCel, Kalek, LadyPixels, laira, Lola4567, MeZN, Noii, PandaGirl, Papi, Parrish, Playertest, shanish2, tour

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 1289 48 624

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction cSN7WrT2CBYEXRTL3e4Q0FIX31OGtzW6 D2691E 1289 48 624

flux reports a bug: > nyans (and rainbows) are registered as fuels? Player position: ``` { z = 624, x = 1289, y = 47.700000762939 } ``` Player look: ``` { z = 0.6974104642868, x = 0.43629816174507, y = -0.5685618519783 } ``` Player information: ``` { protocol_version = 42, formspec_version = 6, max_rtt = 3, state = "Active", connection_uptime = 12711, ip_version = 6, min_rtt = 0.16699999570847, avg_rtt = 0.17599999904633, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 2.8229999542236, avg_jitter = 0.0090000033378601, lang_code = "", serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, minor = 8, major = 5, version_string = "5.8.0-dev-7388c87ad" } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { yl_commons_thankyou = "326", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", yl_commons_player_created = "1615351173", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1", partychat = "party", digged_nodes = "1714312", jointime = "1615351173", bitten = "0", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = 1227, [\"x\"] = 35, [\"y\"] = 38}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1615504208, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1687231432}", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"shields:shield_rainbow 1 8176\", \"3d_armor:helmet_rainbow 1 8176\", \"3d_armor:leggings_rainbow 1 8176\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_rainbow 1 8176\", \"nether_mobs:dragon_boots 1 20420\", \"\"}", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", yl_commons_player_joined = "1691686334", played_time = "40155303", punch_count = "306059", placed_nodes = "478602", died = "100", ["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"speed\"] = 2, [\"gravity\"] = 1}", xp = "2296060", hud_state = "on", ["signslib:pos"] = "(1275,70,546)", repellant = "0", crafted = "203218", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "1", inflicted_damage = "6036212", ["stamina:level"] = "4", ["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "20", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\"}", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "92" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = cSN7WrT2CBYEXRTL3e4Q0FIX31OGtzW6 ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20230810T202343.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.7.0-yl-thx-tmm | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 4d 54min 54s | max lag: 1.36s | clients (30/52): afonsan, AliasAlreadyTaken, Andromeda, Bambusmann, BenOnly, Bingo, bizon, Boot, copper144, copper248, daydream, debiankaios, der_c_aus_a, DragonWrangler1, FailFactory, flux, InitialD_, JeCel, Kalek, LadyPixels, laira, Lola4567, MeZN, Noii, PandaGirl, Papi, Parrish, Playertest, shanish2, tour ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 1289 48 624 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction cSN7WrT2CBYEXRTL3e4Q0FIX31OGtzW6 D2691E 1289 48 624 ```

AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2023-08-10 20:23:43 +00:00

copper248 commented

2023-08-10 20:30:57 +00:00

both types of rb blocks not just the nyan ones

sixer commented

2023-08-10 20:48:30 +00:00

Fairly expensive fuel. Does it burn a long time at least? :)

copper248 commented

2023-08-10 21:07:54 +00:00

Fairly expensive fuel. Does it burn a long time at least? :)

probably not but even as an infinite fuel it isn't worth it for nyans and still not even close for rb, you could build a little papyrus farm for fuel in less time but regardless I am not testing it, I have a balrog in my base on the test server from a failed experiment and no way am i burning a nyan on the main server, I will just leave rheo to test those

anyway I should probably bring up lava orbs and books with text, lava orbs are a little expensive to burn, and burning books with text accidentally could result in people losing a lot of work, also they are a free infinite fuel, a lot of books are free in haven like baliff apps, various tutorials, etc.

I think along with nyans and rb blocks, lava orbs and books with text shouldn't be fuels

> Fairly expensive fuel. Does it burn a long time at least? :) probably not but even as an infinite fuel it isn't worth it for nyans and still not even close for rb, you could build a little papyrus farm for fuel in less time but regardless I am not testing it, I have a balrog in my base on the test server from a failed experiment and no way am i burning a nyan on the main server, I will just leave rheo to test those anyway I should probably bring up lava orbs and books with text, lava orbs are a little expensive to burn, and burning books with text accidentally could result in people losing a lot of work, also they are a free infinite fuel, a lot of books are free in haven like baliff apps, various tutorials, etc. I think along with nyans and rb blocks, lava orbs and books with text shouldn't be fuels

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flux commented

2023-08-10 22:23:48 +00:00

nyans burn for a very short period of time, something like wooden planks. i think the recipes should be removed.

books ... are a free infinite fuel

except written books don't stack, so that'd be rather inconvenient to exploit.

nyans burn for a very short period of time, something like wooden planks. i think the recipes should be removed. > books ... are a free infinite fuel except written books don't stack, so that'd be rather inconvenient to exploit.

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2023-08-10 22:38:49 +00:00

Let's remove the fuel recipe, to avoid people accidentally burning up their nyan or rai9nbow blocks. There's no reason they should be fuel.

AliasAlreadyTaken added the

4. step/approved

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copper248 commented

2023-08-10 22:46:52 +00:00

books ... are a free infinite fuel

except written books don't stack, so that'd be rather inconvenient to exploit.

that is true although my other point about them possibly having valuble information still stands, also it would be difficult to use legitimitely so why should it even be a thing

> > books ... are a free infinite fuel > > except written books don't stack, so that'd be rather inconvenient to exploit. that is true although my other point about them possibly having valuble information still stands, also it would be difficult to use legitimitely so why should it even be a thing

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2023-08-10 23:35:31 +00:00

If one can use lava as a fuel, they also should be able to use lava orbs as a fuel. You are right, there are way better uses for those, but if we disable them as a fuel, people will ask why they can't use them.

Same goes for books. It's IMO a good idea wot not have books as a fuel, not only for the cheaty/infinite nature, but also to avoid accidental burning. But again, if unwritten books can be burnt, people might wonder why written books can't.

In case of the lava orbs I'm strongly in favour of keeping them as fuel. In case of the written books I'm slightly in favour of removing them as fuel.

If one can use lava as a fuel, they also should be able to use lava orbs as a fuel. You are right, there are way better uses for those, but if we disable them as a fuel, people will ask why they can't use them. Same goes for books. It's IMO a good idea wot not have books as a fuel, not only for the cheaty/infinite nature, but also to avoid accidental burning. But again, if unwritten books can be burnt, people might wonder why written books can't. In case of the lava orbs I'm strongly in favour of keeping them as fuel. In case of the written books I'm slightly in favour of removing them as fuel.

flux commented

2023-08-11 02:16:35 +00:00

made nyan and such not fuel: 146c949cc0

made nyan and such not fuel: https://gitea.your-land.de/your-land/yl_commons/commit/146c949cc0765df4abfc2c8f07c5afc24095e71f

flux added the

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AzelfYL commented

2023-08-11 05:57:14 +00:00

If one can use lava as a fuel, they also should be able to use lava orbs as a fuel. You are right, there are way better uses for those, but if we disable them as a fuel, people will ask why they can't use them.

Wait, lava orbs aren't burnable as fuel?

> If one can use lava as a fuel, they also should be able to use lava orbs as a fuel. You are right, there are way better uses for those, but if we disable them as a fuel, people will ask why they can't use them. Wait, lava orbs aren't burnable as fuel?

copper248 commented

2023-08-11 06:20:27 +00:00

they are, you can use a lava orb as a fuel but imo they are too valuable, Boot appears to successfully sell them at 5 rb a piece (although they could have just loaded their shop with rb) so this is similar to burning a rb block even though it is canonically accurate, besides on your logic

but if we disable them as a fuel, people will ask why they can't use them.

why can't I burn lava pickaxes for example, no one in their right mind would do it unless they felt like burning money that day.

they are, you can use a lava orb as a fuel but imo they are too valuable, Boot appears to successfully sell them at 5 rb a piece (although they could have just loaded their shop with rb) so this is similar to burning a rb block even though it is canonically accurate, besides on your logic > but if we disable them as a fuel, people will ask why they can't use them. why can't I burn lava pickaxes for example, no one in their right mind would do it unless they felt like burning money that day.

copper248 commented

2023-08-11 06:29:06 +00:00

Sorry this is a weird hill to die on but the whole point is to prevent mistakes, this sounds like it would be quite a annoying mistake although it could be worse

Dirac commented

2023-08-11 20:25:32 +00:00

If one can use lava as a fuel, they also should be able to use lava orbs as a fuel. You are right, there are way better uses for those, but if we disable them as a fuel, people will ask why they can't use them.

Same goes for books. It's IMO a good idea wot not have books as a fuel, not only for the cheaty/infinite nature, but also to avoid accidental burning. But again, if unwritten books can be burnt, people might wonder why written books can't.

In case of the lava orbs I'm strongly in favour of keeping them as fuel. In case of the written books I'm slightly in favour of removing them as fuel.

For the written books being un-burnable: I think a sufficient explanation could be that magical energy imbued by the knowledge contained within a written book prevents it from burning.

> If one can use lava as a fuel, they also should be able to use lava orbs as a fuel. You are right, there are way better uses for those, but if we disable them as a fuel, people will ask why they can't use them. > > Same goes for books. It's IMO a good idea wot not have books as a fuel, not only for the cheaty/infinite nature, but also to avoid accidental burning. But again, if unwritten books can be burnt, people might wonder why written books can't. > > In case of the lava orbs I'm strongly in favour of keeping them as fuel. In case of the written books I'm slightly in favour of removing them as fuel. For the written books being un-burnable: I think a sufficient explanation could be that *magical energy imbued by the knowledge contained within a written book prevents it from burning*.

laylem commented

2023-08-18 04:19:04 +00:00

I'm fine with burning books as a fuel. Occasionally I will burn books if I have duplicates from the library, as I don't ever use the trash icon, but I usually use real fuels for my furnace. If you are going to the library to get fuel, there are much faster uses of time to get much more fuel. Is chopping trees cheaty and infinite?

AliasAlreadyTaken added the

ugh/QA OK

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AliasAlreadyTaken added this to the 1.1.122 milestone 2023-12-05 22:59:51 +00:00

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2023-12-05 23:01:35 +00:00

QA

Nyan et alia cannot be used a fuel anymore. Books however do not enjoy any fire protection

QA Nyan et alia cannot be used a fuel anymore. Books however do not enjoy any fire protection

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5. result/fixed

and removed