alexandre2005 reports: aliwoto built/building? "aliwo ... #1989

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opened 2022-05-27 17:30:15 +02:00 by yourland-report · 5 comments

alexandre2005 reports a bug:

aliwoto built/building? "aliwoto city" next to "the place where noone came before" from goblin catapult. claims all over with alts of his (aliwoto_i, aliwoto_ii, aliwoto_iii), when its supposed to be empty for noobs to get basic stuff. Dragoni, upie and darealbang asked me to report with them as we find it digusting in every way

Player position:

{
	y = 15.5,
	x = -4818.5590820313,
	z = -5219.2431640625
}

Player look:

{
	y = -0.99098318815231,
	x = -0.12564793229103,
	z = 0.046528313308954
}

Player information:

{
	min_rtt = 0.012000000104308,
	max_rtt = 1.7250000238419,
	connection_uptime = 5912,
	max_jitter = 1.6610000133514,
	minor = 4,
	major = 5,
	ip_version = 6,
	formspec_version = 4,
	patch = 1,
	protocol_version = 39,
	serialization_version = 28,
	lang_code = "",
	version_string = "5.4.1",
	avg_rtt = 0.016000000759959,
	state = "Active",
	avg_jitter = 0.0019999984651804,
	min_jitter = 0
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:helmet_crystal 1 36970\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 36970\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 36820\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 36820\", \"\", \"\"}",
		["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "19",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "0",
		["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"speed\"] = 2, [\"gravity\"] = 1}",
		jointime = "1620902771",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "154.5",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(1512,164,389)",
		digged_nodes = "673884",
		placed_nodes = "308779",
		played_time = "2825486",
		bitten = "0",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		partychat = "main",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1653659521",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"y\"] = 15, [\"x\"] = 2036, [\"z\"] = 1304}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1638658034, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1653319885}",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "55",
		["stamina:level"] = "16",
		xp = "665229",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		inflicted_damage = "341850",
		crafted = "42816",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "3",
		punch_count = "35465",
		partypvp = "true",
		died = "151",
		hud_state = "on",
		repellant = "0",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1620902771"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = enwhZPLdd5K5TrfCODd5iXu2pzZ45ZD0

Profiler save:

profile-20220527T173015.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.5.0-yl | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 6d 42min 34s | max lag: 4.93s | clients: Dragoni_is_bored, upie, Zizis, Alex1977, NewbieMan, shanish2, kinzie225, celestial, LordC, Mototank, pitman, alexandre2005, darealbang, pav, Gardenfire2007, rohit, Bishiro, Artruc, Bailiff, AliasAlreadyTaken, Service, brok, flux

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz -4819 16 -5219

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction enwhZPLdd5K5TrfCODd5iXu2pzZ45ZD0 D2691E -4819 16 -5219
alexandre2005 reports a bug: > aliwoto built/building? "aliwoto city" next to "the place where noone came before" from goblin catapult. claims all over with alts of his (aliwoto_i, aliwoto_ii, aliwoto_iii), when its supposed to be empty for noobs to get basic stuff. Dragoni, upie and darealbang asked me to report with them as we find it digusting in every way Player position: ``` { y = 15.5, x = -4818.5590820313, z = -5219.2431640625 } ``` Player look: ``` { y = -0.99098318815231, x = -0.12564793229103, z = 0.046528313308954 } ``` Player information: ``` { min_rtt = 0.012000000104308, max_rtt = 1.7250000238419, connection_uptime = 5912, max_jitter = 1.6610000133514, minor = 4, major = 5, ip_version = 6, formspec_version = 4, patch = 1, protocol_version = 39, serialization_version = 28, lang_code = "", version_string = "5.4.1", avg_rtt = 0.016000000759959, state = "Active", avg_jitter = 0.0019999984651804, min_jitter = 0 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:helmet_crystal 1 36970\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 36970\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 36820\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 36820\", \"\", \"\"}", ["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "19", ["petz:werewolf"] = "0", ["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"jump\"] = 1.5, [\"speed\"] = 2, [\"gravity\"] = 1}", jointime = "1620902771", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "154.5", ["signslib:pos"] = "(1512,164,389)", digged_nodes = "673884", placed_nodes = "308779", played_time = "2825486", bitten = "0", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", partychat = "main", yl_commons_player_joined = "1653659521", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "0", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"y\"] = 15, [\"x\"] = 2036, [\"z\"] = 1304}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1638658034, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1653319885}", yl_commons_thankyou = "55", ["stamina:level"] = "16", xp = "665229", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", inflicted_damage = "341850", crafted = "42816", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "3", punch_count = "35465", partypvp = "true", died = "151", hud_state = "on", repellant = "0", yl_commons_player_created = "1620902771" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = enwhZPLdd5K5TrfCODd5iXu2pzZ45ZD0 ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20220527T173015.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.5.0-yl | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 6d 42min 34s | max lag: 4.93s | clients: Dragoni_is_bored, upie, Zizis, Alex1977, NewbieMan, shanish2, kinzie225, celestial, LordC, Mototank, pitman, alexandre2005, darealbang, pav, Gardenfire2007, rohit, Bishiro, Artruc, Bailiff, AliasAlreadyTaken, Service, brok, flux ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz -4819 16 -5219 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction enwhZPLdd5K5TrfCODd5iXu2pzZ45ZD0 D2691E -4819 16 -5219 ```
AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report 2022-05-27 17:30:15 +02:00

So yeah, i think the screens are enough... i wont judge his building style, but the emplacement really is problematic in my opinion. As said, upie, dragoni and darealbang agree with me




So yeah, i think the screens are enough... i wont judge his building style, but the emplacement really is problematic in my opinion. As said, upie, dragoni and darealbang agree with me ![](https://gitea.your-land.de/attachments/6d59cea0-741c-4983-ba4a-73c059d1d457) ![](https://gitea.your-land.de/attachments/995be8cf-ceca-4764-af5a-ccb9ba3e6aae) ![](https://gitea.your-land.de/attachments/c999cc76-32c5-4bd5-9925-d661a71efe44) ![](https://gitea.your-land.de/attachments/9b3d97fb-a3ae-4092-9125-510283e76d5c)
flux added the
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labels 2022-05-27 17:58:21 +02:00
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not sure if anything has been changed in the intervening time, but the relevant areas are

aliwoto_city [2726]: aliwoto (-4859,-49,-5292) (-4795,79,-5228) -> 3290, 3538
aliwoto_city [3289]: aliwoto_II (-4932,-90,-5223) (-4868,38,-5159)
aliwoto_city [3290]: aliwoto_II (-4859,-49,-5292) (-4795,79,-5228)
aliwoto_city [3329]: aliwoto (-4896,-50,-5137) (-4832,78,-5073)
aliwoto_city [3408]: aliwoto (-4850,-59,-5231) (-4786,69,-5167) -> 3537, 3662
aliwoto_city [3416]: aliwoto (-4911,-49,-5188) (-4847,79,-5124)
aliwoto_city [3426]: aliwoto (-4932,-90,-5223) (-4868,38,-5159) -> 3289
aliwoto_city [3537]: aliwoto_III (-4850,-59,-5231) (-4786,69,-5167)
aliwoto_city [3538]: aliwoto_III (-4859,-49,-5292) (-4795,79,-5228)
aliwoto_city [3579]: aliwoto (-4955,-133,-5259) (-4891,-5,-5195) -> 3580, 3581
aliwoto_city [3580]: aliwoto_III (-4955,-133,-5259) (-4891,-5,-5195)
aliwoto_city [3581]: aliwoto_II (-4955,-133,-5259) (-4891,-5,-5195)
aliwoto_city [3582]: aliwoto_III (-4961,-244,-5331) (-4897,-116,-5267)
aliwoto_city [917]: aliwoto (-4872,-54,-5172) (-4808,74,-5108) -> 3650
aliwoto_city [985]: aliwoto (-4907,-34,-5230) (-4843,94,-5166)

so the extent is (-4961, -244, -5331) to (-4786, 94, -5073), which is (176, y, 259) in total volume, vs (210, y, 224) for my morlock area, which is pretty small for a "city" already. certainly it's ugly, and certainly he's got the areas shared w/ his alts, but it doesn't look like he's trying to colonize the entirety of the "new hope" area, which is how this report sounds? i don't think we need to do anything to "fix" this, and think we should just close it.

not sure if anything has been changed in the intervening time, but the relevant areas are ``` aliwoto_city [2726]: aliwoto (-4859,-49,-5292) (-4795,79,-5228) -> 3290, 3538 aliwoto_city [3289]: aliwoto_II (-4932,-90,-5223) (-4868,38,-5159) aliwoto_city [3290]: aliwoto_II (-4859,-49,-5292) (-4795,79,-5228) aliwoto_city [3329]: aliwoto (-4896,-50,-5137) (-4832,78,-5073) aliwoto_city [3408]: aliwoto (-4850,-59,-5231) (-4786,69,-5167) -> 3537, 3662 aliwoto_city [3416]: aliwoto (-4911,-49,-5188) (-4847,79,-5124) aliwoto_city [3426]: aliwoto (-4932,-90,-5223) (-4868,38,-5159) -> 3289 aliwoto_city [3537]: aliwoto_III (-4850,-59,-5231) (-4786,69,-5167) aliwoto_city [3538]: aliwoto_III (-4859,-49,-5292) (-4795,79,-5228) aliwoto_city [3579]: aliwoto (-4955,-133,-5259) (-4891,-5,-5195) -> 3580, 3581 aliwoto_city [3580]: aliwoto_III (-4955,-133,-5259) (-4891,-5,-5195) aliwoto_city [3581]: aliwoto_II (-4955,-133,-5259) (-4891,-5,-5195) aliwoto_city [3582]: aliwoto_III (-4961,-244,-5331) (-4897,-116,-5267) aliwoto_city [917]: aliwoto (-4872,-54,-5172) (-4808,74,-5108) -> 3650 aliwoto_city [985]: aliwoto (-4907,-34,-5230) (-4843,94,-5166) ``` so the extent is (-4961, -244, -5331) to (-4786, 94, -5073), which is (176, y, 259) in total volume, vs (210, y, 224) for my morlock area, which is pretty small for a "city" already. certainly it's ugly, and certainly he's got the areas shared w/ his alts, but it doesn't look like he's trying to colonize the entirety of the "new hope" area, which is how this report sounds? i don't think we need to do anything to "fix" this, and think we should just close it.
flux added the
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label 2022-06-07 02:41:49 +02:00
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here's some examples of more "not great" builds in the surrounding area, that didn't provoke such vitriol?




here's some examples of more "not great" builds in the surrounding area, that didn't provoke such vitriol? ![](https://gitea.your-land.de/attachments/593f9073-31db-4b57-b126-c55e43ed4f33) ![](https://gitea.your-land.de/attachments/9d60997d-eb79-4cd3-be4c-b75db50bfd47) ![](https://gitea.your-land.de/attachments/baa814c8-9787-4b4b-9c52-f177556464c1) ![](https://gitea.your-land.de/attachments/849af0ef-f316-4655-8f60-7f4a623b985b)
flux added this to the flux's TODO list project 2022-07-02 23:59:59 +02:00
  1. Had aliwoto asked me to merge his areas, I'd probably done so.
  2. Protecting so much area with alts is certainly not excellent - this circumvents area limits for alt accounts.
  3. aliwoto unfortunately hasn't logged in for a while - however that's no reason for action in any direction, only something that prevents me from asking him his opinion.
  4. The construction itself may be not to my taste, but it shows artistic value far beyond a cobblebox. It does look incomplete though.

Voting "no action until we asked aliwoto"

1. Had aliwoto asked me to merge his areas, I'd probably done so. 2. Protecting so much area with alts is certainly not excellent - this circumvents area limits for alt accounts. 3. aliwoto unfortunately hasn't logged in for a while - however that's no reason for action in any direction, only something that prevents me from asking him his opinion. 4. The construction itself may be not to my taste, but it shows artistic value far beyond a cobblebox. It does look incomplete though. Voting "no action until we asked aliwoto"
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  1. Had aliwoto asked me to merge his areas, I'd probably done so.
  2. Protecting so much area with alts is certainly not excellent - this circumvents area limits for alt accounts.

i don't think that aliwoto was trying to get around area limits, or at least that wasn't the main purpose. i think he was trying to have multiple alt accounts keep various areas loaded to "farm" things, while allowing those alts to access protected storage/machines.

  1. aliwoto unfortunately hasn't logged in for a while - however that's no reason for action in any direction, only something that prevents me from asking him his opinion.
  2. The construction itself may be not to my taste, but it shows artistic value far beyond a cobblebox. It does look incomplete though.

Voting "no action until we asked aliwoto"

i think we agree on the major points. the build isn't great, but it's not so obnoxious that it needs to be removed from where it is.

> 1. Had aliwoto asked me to merge his areas, I'd probably done so. > 2. Protecting so much area with alts is certainly not excellent - this circumvents area limits for alt accounts. i don't think that aliwoto was trying to get around area limits, or at least that wasn't the main purpose. i think he was trying to have multiple alt accounts keep various areas loaded to "farm" things, while allowing those alts to access protected storage/machines. > 3. aliwoto unfortunately hasn't logged in for a while - however that's no reason for action in any direction, only something that prevents me from asking him his opinion. > 4. The construction itself may be not to my taste, but it shows artistic value far beyond a cobblebox. It does look incomplete though. > > Voting "no action until we asked aliwoto" i think we agree on the major points. the build isn't great, but it's not so obnoxious that it needs to be removed from where it is.
AliasAlreadyTaken added
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and removed
4. step/want approval
labels 2022-08-05 06:11:24 +02:00
flux removed this from the flux's TODO list project 2022-08-05 06:32:18 +02:00
AliasAlreadyTaken was unassigned by flux 2022-08-05 06:32:21 +02:00
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