rheo reports: musings on protection areas an ... #1945

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yourland-report · 2022-05-19T01:47:49Z

yourland-report commented

2022-05-19 01:47:49 +00:00

rheo reports a bug:

musings on protection areas and building: perhaps the only way to protect a master area should be /protect_this, and the area should be larger? this would prevent players from protecting areas too close to other players. perhaps new players (below level 10?) can only build in their own protected areas?

Player position:

{
	y = 88.5,
	x = 2320.873046875,
	z = 1.7170000076294
}

Player look:

{
	y = -0.66679263114929,
	x = -0.69945049285889,
	z = 0.25720918178558
}

Player information:

{
	min_rtt = 0.15000000596046,
	max_rtt = 4.0240001678467,
	connection_uptime = 2796,
	max_jitter = 3.5199999809265,
	minor = 6,
	major = 5,
	ip_version = 6,
	formspec_version = 5,
	patch = 0,
	protocol_version = 40,
	serialization_version = 29,
	lang_code = "",
	version_string = "5.6.0-dev-d208be276-dirty",
	avg_rtt = 0.15899999439716,
	state = "Active",
	avg_jitter = 0,
	min_jitter = 0
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:helmet_admin\", \"shields:shield_admin\", \"nether_mobs:dragon_boots 1 4896\", \"\", \"\", \"\"}",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "4",
		jointime = "1644205752",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "85.5",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(1916,49,1867)",
		["ethereal:fly_timer"] = "-99",
		bitten = "0",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		partychat = "party",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1652922092",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"y\"] = 15, [\"x\"] = 1353, [\"z\"] = 1089}}",
		punch_count = "654",
		["stamina:level"] = "18",
		xp = "12925",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		inflicted_damage = "103046",
		crafted = "17",
		died = "2",
		digged_nodes = "3796",
		played_time = "769259",
		placed_nodes = "11398",
		hud_state = "on",
		repellant = "0",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1644205752"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = k17tHff95O6v6npdrjmvi5Pbx2uqOzAl

Profiler save:

profile-20220519T034748.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.5.0-yl | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 3d 9h 32min 29s | max lag: 4.48s | clients: DanteLives, Lupercus, Player249, shanish2, Zizis, rheo, bodshfa, digdeep, Alex1977, Flatulenator, AliasAlreadyTaken, Service, mrminer, Bailiff, bellgrade, andarilho, pitman, HorusDamocles, flux, ymte

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 2321 89 2

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction k17tHff95O6v6npdrjmvi5Pbx2uqOzAl D2691E 2321 89 2

rheo reports a bug: > musings on protection areas and building: perhaps the only way to protect a master area should be /protect_this, and the area should be *larger*? this would prevent players from protecting areas too close to other players. perhaps new players (below level 10?) can only build in their own protected areas? Player position: ``` { y = 88.5, x = 2320.873046875, z = 1.7170000076294 } ``` Player look: ``` { y = -0.66679263114929, x = -0.69945049285889, z = 0.25720918178558 } ``` Player information: ``` { min_rtt = 0.15000000596046, max_rtt = 4.0240001678467, connection_uptime = 2796, max_jitter = 3.5199999809265, minor = 6, major = 5, ip_version = 6, formspec_version = 5, patch = 0, protocol_version = 40, serialization_version = 29, lang_code = "", version_string = "5.6.0-dev-d208be276-dirty", avg_rtt = 0.15899999439716, state = "Active", avg_jitter = 0, min_jitter = 0 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:helmet_admin\", \"shields:shield_admin\", \"nether_mobs:dragon_boots 1 4896\", \"\", \"\", \"\"}", yl_commons_thankyou = "4", jointime = "1644205752", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "85.5", ["signslib:pos"] = "(1916,49,1867)", ["ethereal:fly_timer"] = "-99", bitten = "0", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", partychat = "party", yl_commons_player_joined = "1652922092", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"y\"] = 15, [\"x\"] = 1353, [\"z\"] = 1089}}", punch_count = "654", ["stamina:level"] = "18", xp = "12925", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", inflicted_damage = "103046", crafted = "17", died = "2", digged_nodes = "3796", played_time = "769259", placed_nodes = "11398", hud_state = "on", repellant = "0", yl_commons_player_created = "1644205752" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = k17tHff95O6v6npdrjmvi5Pbx2uqOzAl ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20220519T034748.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.5.0-yl | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 3d 9h 32min 29s | max lag: 4.48s | clients: DanteLives, Lupercus, Player249, shanish2, Zizis, rheo, bodshfa, digdeep, Alex1977, Flatulenator, AliasAlreadyTaken, Service, mrminer, Bailiff, bellgrade, andarilho, pitman, HorusDamocles, flux, ymte ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 2321 89 2 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction k17tHff95O6v6npdrjmvi5Pbx2uqOzAl D2691E 2321 89 2 ```

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flux commented

2022-05-19 02:20:47 +00:00

kind/expository

`kind/expository`

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flux commented

2022-05-19 22:20:52 +00:00

This suggestion is meant only for master areas.

flux referenced this issue

2022-07-02 21:18:02 +00:00

shanish reports: allow protecting a smaller rad ... #1880

flux referenced this issue

2022-07-02 21:18:13 +00:00

flux reports: we should get rid of the oblig ... #2087

flux commented

2022-07-02 21:18:21 +00:00

cf. #1880 and #2087

flux added this to the flux's TODO list project 2022-07-02 21:40:29 +00:00

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AliasAlreadyTaken added the

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AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2022-09-12 07:13:55 +00:00

perhaps the only way to protect a master area should be /protect_this, and the area should be larger? this would prevent players from protecting areas too close to other players.

There is already a message telling people Not to build too close to others. Until now we did that on the assumption people will read the message, delete their area and move on. Unfortunately we have learned this is not the case - especially those who are the target group people want to not have nearby tend to ignore the message.

perhaps new players (below level 10?) can only build in their own protected areas?

Most often, the problem is not "building crude stuff", but "digging up the landscape". If we allowed building (and digging) only in their own area, people might have a hard time to make it to level 10

> perhaps the only way to protect a master area should be /protect_this, and the area should be larger? this would prevent players from protecting areas too close to other players. There is already a message telling people Not to build too close to others. Until now we did that on the assumption people will read the message, delete their area and move on. Unfortunately we have learned this is not the case - especially those who are the target group people want to not have nearby tend to ignore the message. > perhaps new players (below level 10?) can only build in their own protected areas? Most often, the problem is not "building crude stuff", but "digging up the landscape". If we allowed building (and digging) only in their own area, people might have a hard time to make it to level 10

flux commented

2022-09-12 16:39:32 +00:00

yeah, i don't think these proposals work for the reasons alias mentioned. different solutions are needed. closing.

flux closed this issue

2022-09-12 16:39:32 +00:00

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labels 2022-09-12 16:39:45 +00:00

flux removed this from the flux's TODO list project 2022-09-20 19:59:14 +00:00

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