Soy, tofu, soy milk #964

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Styxcolor · 2021-10-29T09:47:05Z

Styxcolor commented

2021-10-29 09:47:05 +00:00

/bug we have two soys in the game, farming and cucina vegana. The tofus you can make out of them do not overlap in their recipes currently, they should be a group. It gets tricky with the two soy milk recipes. The cucina one returns a "simple" soy milk you can use in cooking (and high end cakes!) while the farming soy milk has an expensive recipe (including vanilla extract) that is rather soy milk for serving in a cafe. Suggestion: still make both types of soy beans useable for the "simple" recipe, it's just a bunch of beans and a glass (both soy beans become a group) and then also have the both beans be useable for the expensive recipe, but then change it's name to something else, maybe vanilla soy milk to indicate it is premium quality compared to the baking one. (and include something like a vanilla stick and flower for the icon)

(maybe also review whether you can use tofu as replacement for meat in more meat recipes, but that needs some more research what makes sense and what doesn't)

/bug we have two soys in the game, farming and cucina vegana. The tofus you can make out of them do not overlap in their recipes currently, they should be a group. It gets tricky with the two soy milk recipes. The cucina one returns a "simple" soy milk you can use in cooking (and high end cakes!) while the farming soy milk has an expensive recipe (including vanilla extract) that is rather soy milk for serving in a cafe. Suggestion: still make both types of soy beans useable for the "simple" recipe, it's just a bunch of beans and a glass (both soy beans become a group) and then also have the both beans be useable for the expensive recipe, but then change it's name to something else, maybe vanilla soy milk to indicate it is premium quality compared to the baking one. (and include something like a vanilla stick and flower for the icon) (maybe also review whether you can use tofu as replacement for meat in more meat recipes, but that needs some more research what makes sense and what doesn't)

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2021-10-29 09:47:05 +00:00

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Styxcolor commented

2021-11-05 10:06:37 +00:00

Addition - would be great if coconut milk joined the group as well as coconut butter/oil into the butter/oil group. At least for some recipes coconut oil/butter is a legit alternative.

Styxcolor commented

2021-11-05 11:41:11 +00:00

the current situation in detail:

farming:soy_beans can be used for:
-- farming:soy_milk (!)
-- farming:tofu (!)
-- farming:soy_sauce
cucina_vegana:soy_seed can directly be used for:
-- cucina_vegana:edamamae
cucina_vegana:soy can be used for:
-- cucina_vegana:soy_milk(!)
-- cucina_vegana_tofu(!)
the farming:soy_milk recipe is good for:
-- farming:porridge
-- farming:cheese_vegan(!)(2 recipes, one with ethanol one without)
-- combine four glasses of soy milk into 1 mobs:bucket_milk (!)
-- crafting a vessels:shelf
the cucina_vegana:soy_milk recipe is good for:
--cucina_vegana_asparagus_soup
--cucina_vegana_ciabatta_dough
--pie:orange_0
--petz:blueberry_ice_cream (this has 3 recipes)
--cucina_vegana:imitation_butter
--pie:rvel_0
--pie:bana_0
--pie:brpd_0
--farming:jaffa_cake
--pie:pie_0
--petz:blueberry_muffin (this has 3 recipes, one of them at least differs from the others but I'm not sure whether it's for the better)
--pie:scsk_0
--cucina_vegana:pizza_dough
--pie:coff_0
--cucina_vegana_soy_soup
--cucina_vegana_sauce_hollandaise
--pie:choc_0
--farming:flan

cucina_vegana:imitation_cheese actually works without soy milk, relying on imitation_butter and dye

the current situation in detail: - farming:soy_beans can be used for: -- farming:soy_milk (!) -- farming:tofu (!) -- farming:soy_sauce - cucina_vegana:soy_seed can directly be used for: -- cucina_vegana:edamamae - cucina_vegana:soy can be used for: -- cucina_vegana:soy_milk(!) -- cucina_vegana_tofu(!) - the farming:soy_milk recipe is good for: -- farming:porridge -- farming:cheese_vegan(!)(2 recipes, one with ethanol one without) -- combine four glasses of soy milk into 1 mobs:bucket_milk (!) -- crafting a vessels:shelf - the cucina_vegana:soy_milk recipe is good for: --cucina_vegana_asparagus_soup --cucina_vegana_ciabatta_dough --pie:orange_0 --petz:blueberry_ice_cream (this has 3 recipes) --cucina_vegana:imitation_butter --pie:rvel_0 --pie:bana_0 --pie:brpd_0 --farming:jaffa_cake --pie:pie_0 --petz:blueberry_muffin (this has 3 recipes, one of them at least differs from the others but I'm not sure whether it's for the better) --pie:scsk_0 --cucina_vegana:pizza_dough --pie:coff_0 --cucina_vegana_soy_soup --cucina_vegana_sauce_hollandaise --pie:choc_0 --farming:flan cucina_vegana:imitation_cheese actually works without soy milk, relying on imitation_butter and dye

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Styxcolor commented

2021-11-05 11:54:15 +00:00

it's a balancing question whether we want to allow 4 soy milk to become an actual bucket of milk...and access the recipes of that one by doing so.
The advantage of milk over soy milk at the moment is just that you can make cheese and butter easier with a bucket of milk than with soy.

it's a balancing question whether we want to allow 4 soy milk to become an actual bucket of milk...and access the recipes of that one by doing so. The advantage of milk over soy milk at the moment is just that you can make cheese and butter easier with a bucket of milk than with soy.

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2021-11-11 23:44:49 +00:00

Styxcolor commented

2021-11-11 23:47:47 +00:00

mind the megafix from #974 that changes a thing or two, especially now that I know about group:food_milk_glass

I would like to start with/add a small step and modify how the farming glass soy milk, coconut and milk-milk look, to have more visual clarity when crafting.

Also I'd like the farming soy milk to be renamed into something like a deluxe soy milk, because the recipe requires more expensive ingredients than the cucina_vegana one

mind the megafix from #974 that changes a thing or two, especially now that I know about group:food_milk_glass I would like to start with/add a small step and modify how the farming glass soy milk, coconut and milk-milk look, to have more visual clarity when crafting. Also I'd like the farming soy milk to be renamed into something like a deluxe soy milk, because the recipe requires more expensive ingredients than the cucina_vegana one

Styxcolor commented

2021-11-12 09:10:06 +00:00

First fix for here in particular - farming:soy_milk is now described as "Vanilla Soy Milk" ingame, that is true to what it is

commit cebac400a59c9c64b7a487b65b5b24f35125c33a

And all the food items should now mostly share their groups/be widely useable.
Next up:

milk glass icons
soy integration
tofu integration
milk integration and replacements
coconut integration and replacements (this blends into #882 and the other coconut related issues already)

First fix for here in particular - farming:soy_milk is now described as "Vanilla Soy Milk" ingame, that is true to what it is commit cebac400a59c9c64b7a487b65b5b24f35125c33a And all the food items should now mostly share their groups/be widely useable. Next up: - milk glass icons - soy integration - tofu integration - milk integration and replacements - coconut integration and replacements (this blends into #882 and the other coconut related issues already)

Styxcolor commented

2021-11-12 09:31:44 +00:00

I was going a bit too quick here, it worked but wasn't well coded.
Fixed in:

commit 80c1cad0d576914a74c18f33ad22098b4ed179f3

and now continuing.

I was going a bit too quick here, it worked but wasn't well coded. Fixed in: commit 80c1cad0d576914a74c18f33ad22098b4ed179f3 and now continuing.

Styxcolor commented

2021-11-12 14:12:02 +00:00

Icons here:

commit 99ca070e2b370dc6e2208fae35498dd1fcb89559

Icons here: commit 99ca070e2b370dc6e2208fae35498dd1fcb89559

Styxcolor commented

2021-11-14 09:15:15 +00:00

temp:
farming:tofu_cooked good for:
farming burger and
meatblock
(gruppe food_meat)

cucina_vegana:tofu_cooked
(no uses)

farming:tofu:
gyoza,
meat cake,
teriyaki beef
(food_meat_raw)

cucina_vegana:tofu:
gyoza,
meat cake,
teriyaki beef,
(food_meat_raw)

mobs: redundant, removing these
raw chicken
raw meat

genuine recipes to adjust for group:food_tofu

imitation meat
imitation poultry
imitation fish
tofu on chives and rosemary

classic vegan sandwich
tasty tofu sandwich
tofu sandwich
gourmet vegan sandwich

temp: farming:tofu_cooked good for: farming burger and meatblock (gruppe food_meat) cucina_vegana:tofu_cooked (no uses) farming:tofu: gyoza, meat cake, teriyaki beef (food_meat_raw) cucina_vegana:tofu: gyoza, meat cake, teriyaki beef, (food_meat_raw) mobs: redundant, removing these raw chicken raw meat genuine recipes to adjust for group:food_tofu imitation meat imitation poultry imitation fish tofu on chives and rosemary classic vegan sandwich tasty tofu sandwich tofu sandwich gourmet vegan sandwich

Styxcolor commented

2021-11-14 18:23:33 +00:00

Fixed:

commit 2aad6b94fd32ea0fb2de23b52f03f5dd0a97fbba

On to the coconut integration in #882 !

Fixed: commit 2aad6b94fd32ea0fb2de23b52f03f5dd0a97fbba On to the coconut integration in #882 !

Styxcolor added spent time 2021-11-14 18:23:43 +00:00

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