Azelf reports: Certain items should NOT be ab ... #4518

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opened 2023-05-18 02:11:22 +00:00 by yourland-report · 9 comments

Azelf reports a bug:

Certain items should NOT be able to burn in lava with the new update

Player position:

{
	y = -4154.4990234375,
	z = -3057.3359375,
	x = 121.8629989624
}

Player look:

{
	y = 0.0020943933632225,
	z = -0.77878934144974,
	x = -0.62728202342987
}

Player information:

{
	minor = 7,
	version_string = "5.7.0",
	protocol_version = 41,
	ip_version = 6,
	lang_code = "",
	avg_rtt = 0.16500000655651,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 6.7420001029968,
	avg_jitter = 0.00099998712539673,
	connection_uptime = 266,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	state = "Active",
	min_rtt = 0.16400000452995,
	max_rtt = 6.9130001068115,
	formspec_version = 6,
	major = 5
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		yl_commons_player_created = "1659363683",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.67602e+09",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		hud_state = "on",
		["stamina:level"] = "16",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "47",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "93.5",
		xp = "676917",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 17260\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 520\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 2720\", \"shields:shield_crystal 1 8520\", \"3d_armor:helmet_crystal 1 17260\"}",
		jointime = "1659363683",
		bitten = "0",
		repellant = "0",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "11",
		crafted = "221970",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_heal\"] = 1678197363, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = -3039, [\"x\"] = 97, [\"y\"] = 29887}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1684155906}",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(1981,19,1175)",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1684375640",
		partychat = "party",
		played_time = "2980108",
		digged_nodes = "551312",
		placed_nodes = "148182",
		died = "90",
		punch_count = "170273",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		inflicted_damage = "3658454"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = skJphsEAmmlmbaQfZ2tojpPzajMJIBnk

Profiler save:

profile-20230518T021122.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.6.1-yl-debug | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 15min 47s | max lag: 0.154s | clients (2/52): Azelf, Service

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 122 -4154 -3057

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction skJphsEAmmlmbaQfZ2tojpPzajMJIBnk D2691E 122 -4154 -3057
Azelf reports a bug: > Certain items should NOT be able to burn in lava with the new update Player position: ``` { y = -4154.4990234375, z = -3057.3359375, x = 121.8629989624 } ``` Player look: ``` { y = 0.0020943933632225, z = -0.77878934144974, x = -0.62728202342987 } ``` Player information: ``` { minor = 7, version_string = "5.7.0", protocol_version = 41, ip_version = 6, lang_code = "", avg_rtt = 0.16500000655651, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 6.7420001029968, avg_jitter = 0.00099998712539673, connection_uptime = 266, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, state = "Active", min_rtt = 0.16400000452995, max_rtt = 6.9130001068115, formspec_version = 6, major = 5 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { yl_commons_player_created = "1659363683", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.67602e+09", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", hud_state = "on", ["stamina:level"] = "16", yl_commons_thankyou = "47", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "93.5", xp = "676917", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 17260\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 520\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 2720\", \"shields:shield_crystal 1 8520\", \"3d_armor:helmet_crystal 1 17260\"}", jointime = "1659363683", bitten = "0", repellant = "0", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "11", crafted = "221970", yl_church = "return {[\"last_heal\"] = 1678197363, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = -3039, [\"x\"] = 97, [\"y\"] = 29887}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1684155906}", ["signslib:pos"] = "(1981,19,1175)", yl_commons_player_joined = "1684375640", partychat = "party", played_time = "2980108", digged_nodes = "551312", placed_nodes = "148182", died = "90", punch_count = "170273", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", inflicted_damage = "3658454" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = skJphsEAmmlmbaQfZ2tojpPzajMJIBnk ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20230518T021122.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.6.1-yl-debug | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 15min 47s | max lag: 0.154s | clients (2/52): Azelf, Service ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 122 -4154 -3057 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction skJphsEAmmlmbaQfZ2tojpPzajMJIBnk D2691E 122 -4154 -3057 ```
AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report 2023-05-18 02:11:22 +00:00
AliasAlreadyTaken added the
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1. kind/breaking
labels 2023-05-18 03:25:03 +00:00
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this is a comment about #4473, i presume? i agree that most things shouldn't be destroyed by lava

this is a comment about #4473, i presume? i agree that most things shouldn't be destroyed by lava
Member

What's an example of something that SHOULD be burned in lava? (Instead of just sinking)

What's an example of something that SHOULD be burned in lava? (Instead of just sinking)
Member

What's an example of something that SHOULD be burned in lava? (Instead of just sinking)

my thinking was that anything that could be used as furnace fuel should be destroyed (e.g. wood), and anything that can be cooked in a furnace should get cooked (e.g. raw meat -> cooked meat)

> What's an example of something that SHOULD be burned in lava? (Instead of just sinking) > my thinking was that anything that could be used as furnace fuel should be destroyed (e.g. wood), and anything that can be cooked in a furnace should get cooked (e.g. raw meat -> cooked meat)

There is a group:flammable if you search for it in the crafting guide, there are 16 pages of items. Those sound reasonable to be processed in lava.

We still need to be careful not to burn stuff like written books or other uniques

There is a `group:flammable` if you search for it in the crafting guide, there are 16 pages of items. Those sound reasonable to be processed in lava. We still need to be careful not to burn stuff like written books or other uniques
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group:flammable

TIL "farming:glass_water" is flammable 😕

> `group:flammable` TIL "farming:glass_water" is flammable 😕

Might want to exclude everything nether(nodes/drops/etc) from burning/cooking in lava.

Might want to exclude everything nether(nodes/drops/etc) from burning/cooking in lava.
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Might want to exclude everything nether(nodes/drops/etc) from burning/cooking in lava.

i'm not aware of any item from the nether that'd be destroyed by either the mechanism that Alias or i proposed - am i missing something? there's a few things that can be cooked, but they are already cooked if they are mob drops and the mob is killed w/ fire or lava, e.g. mobs:meat_raw and nether:nether_lump. i feel this is reasonable, do you really think they should not be cooked?

> Might want to exclude everything nether(nodes/drops/etc) from burning/cooking in lava. i'm not aware of any item from the nether that'd be destroyed by either the mechanism that Alias or i proposed - am i missing something? there's a few things that can be cooked, but they are *already* cooked if they are mob drops and the mob is killed w/ fire or lava, e.g. `mobs:meat_raw` and `nether:nether_lump`. i feel this is reasonable, do you really think they should not be cooked?

Might want to exclude everything nether(nodes/drops/etc) from burning/cooking in lava.

i'm not aware of any item from the nether that'd be destroyed by either the mechanism that Alias or i proposed - am i missing something?

"from nether" probably not but "in nether"

Anyway, players will misuse that mechanic no matter if in nether or not to make fuel free instant cooking "furnace" builds 🤷

> > Might want to exclude everything nether(nodes/drops/etc) from burning/cooking in lava. > > i'm not aware of any item from the nether that'd be destroyed by either the mechanism that Alias or i proposed - am i missing something? "from nether" probably not but "in nether" Anyway, players will misuse that mechanic no matter if in nether or not to make fuel free instant cooking "furnace" builds 🤷

After #4473 was closed wontfix, we'll not have items burning in lava or similar. At best we could make it that fuel and really obvious burnables cause a small poof effect, but that's about it. I don't want people defeat a dragon and then see their dragon scale drop into a lava pond.

Although this opinion may change when new information arises, but until then wontfix.

After #4473 was closed wontfix, we'll not have items burning in lava or similar. At best we could make it that fuel and really obvious burnables cause a small *poof* effect, but that's about it. I don't want people defeat a dragon and then see their dragon scale drop into a lava pond. Although this opinion may change when new information arises, but until then wontfix.
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label 2023-12-08 06:57:01 +00:00
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