toomanycharacter2 reports: "Space" from Alphabet should h ... #4222

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opened 2023-04-18 10:43:55 +00:00 by yourland-report · 11 comments

toomanycharacter2 reports a bug:

"Space" from Alphabet should have a different crafting recipe. It makes no sense why these should be crafted using dirt in the shape of a door - maybe something white could be used to craft it instead, such as bonemeal, white dye, etc.?

Player position:

{
	x = -2292.4741210938,
	y = 45.5,
	z = -3654.99609375
}

Player look:

{
	x = 0.74581772089005,
	y = -0.24005861580372,
	z = -0.62139177322388
}

Player information:

{
	version_string = "5.7.0",
	lang_code = "",
	max_rtt = 0.66399997472763,
	ip_version = 6,
	min_rtt = 0.016000000759959,
	avg_rtt = 0.017000000923872,
	minor = 7,
	max_jitter = 0.61899995803833,
	avg_jitter = 0,
	connection_uptime = 5984,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	formspec_version = 6,
	state = "Active",
	min_jitter = 0,
	protocol_version = 41,
	major = 5
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "124.5",
		placed_nodes = "53703",
		died = "40",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		hud_state = "on",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"shields:shield_crystal 1 24500\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 24500\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 24500\", \"3d_armor:helmet_crystal 1 24500\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 25940\", \"\"}",
		repellant = "0",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1666344318",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1681808662",
		inflicted_damage = "326548",
		jointime = "1666344318",
		xp = "139463",
		digged_nodes = "136963",
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.68043e+09",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "8",
		punch_count = "15572",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		crafted = "1576",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(-2436,28,-3857)",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = -6665, [\"y\"] = 34, [\"z\"] = -6666}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1681810053}",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "7",
		["stamina:level"] = "18",
		bitten = "0",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		played_time = "512303"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = u7cRWN4dlY6O76ZZfvt6hcqZIaVCACco

Profiler save:

profile-20230418T104355.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.6.1-yl | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 4d 13h 27min 47s | max lag: 1.05s | clients (20/52): 9T9, AliasAlreadyTaken, Azelf, Bailiff, Chache, cycy, daydream, Dirac, fartlord, fellow, flux, FunDuels, HorusDamocles, Lupercus, MineWorlds, Murmel, niceride, Service, sixer, toomanycharacter2

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz -2292 46 -3655

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction u7cRWN4dlY6O76ZZfvt6hcqZIaVCACco D2691E -2292 46 -3655
toomanycharacter2 reports a bug: > "Space" from Alphabet should have a different crafting recipe. It makes no sense why these should be crafted using dirt in the shape of a door - maybe something white could be used to craft it instead, such as bonemeal, white dye, etc.? Player position: ``` { x = -2292.4741210938, y = 45.5, z = -3654.99609375 } ``` Player look: ``` { x = 0.74581772089005, y = -0.24005861580372, z = -0.62139177322388 } ``` Player information: ``` { version_string = "5.7.0", lang_code = "", max_rtt = 0.66399997472763, ip_version = 6, min_rtt = 0.016000000759959, avg_rtt = 0.017000000923872, minor = 7, max_jitter = 0.61899995803833, avg_jitter = 0, connection_uptime = 5984, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, formspec_version = 6, state = "Active", min_jitter = 0, protocol_version = 41, major = 5 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "124.5", placed_nodes = "53703", died = "40", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", hud_state = "on", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"shields:shield_crystal 1 24500\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 24500\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 24500\", \"3d_armor:helmet_crystal 1 24500\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 25940\", \"\"}", repellant = "0", yl_commons_player_created = "1666344318", yl_commons_player_joined = "1681808662", inflicted_damage = "326548", jointime = "1666344318", xp = "139463", digged_nodes = "136963", ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.68043e+09", yl_commons_thankyou = "8", punch_count = "15572", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", crafted = "1576", ["signslib:pos"] = "(-2436,28,-3857)", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"x\"] = -6665, [\"y\"] = 34, [\"z\"] = -6666}, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1681810053}", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "7", ["stamina:level"] = "18", bitten = "0", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", played_time = "512303" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = u7cRWN4dlY6O76ZZfvt6hcqZIaVCACco ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20230418T104355.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.6.1-yl | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 4d 13h 27min 47s | max lag: 1.05s | clients (20/52): 9T9, AliasAlreadyTaken, Azelf, Bailiff, Chache, cycy, daydream, Dirac, fartlord, fellow, flux, FunDuels, HorusDamocles, Lupercus, MineWorlds, Murmel, niceride, Service, sixer, toomanycharacter2 ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz -2292 46 -3655 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction u7cRWN4dlY6O76ZZfvt6hcqZIaVCACco D2691E -2292 46 -3655 ```
AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report 2023-04-18 10:43:55 +00:00

Using another material just for the space would make it inconsistent though and could therefore lead to confusion

Using another material just for the space would make it inconsistent though and could therefore lead to confusion
flux added the
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label 2023-04-18 22:16:52 +00:00
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the recipes for the alphabet letters are designed after braille. though the braille for "space" is " ", so ... hm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille_pattern_dots-123456

using black/white dye instead of dirt/wood might make more sense though.

the recipes for the alphabet letters are designed after braille. though the braille for "space" is " ", so ... hm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braille_pattern_dots-123456 using black/white dye instead of dirt/wood might make more sense though.

I'd rather not change the recipe to something very different. What's so bad about the current one?

I'd rather not change the recipe to something very different. What's so bad about the current one?
Member

I'd rather not change the recipe to something very different. What's so bad about the current one?

nothing, just a bit unpredictable :)

> I'd rather not change the recipe to something very different. What's so bad about the current one? > nothing, just a bit unpredictable :)

This is now a documentation/construction issue. Let's build a place to teach mainly about braille and at the same time about how to craft alphabet blocks. We can't refer everyone to an ages old thread, even worse: In the defunct minetest forum.

This is the thread: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2312

This is now a documentation/construction issue. Let's build a place to teach mainly about braille and at the same time about how to craft alphabet blocks. We can't refer everyone to an ages old thread, even worse: In the defunct minetest forum. This is the thread: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2312
AliasAlreadyTaken added the
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label 2023-04-19 01:37:59 +00:00
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maybe the crafting guide could at least give a hint on where to go in haven to learn how to craft them?

maybe the crafting guide could at least give a hint on where to go in haven to learn how to craft them?
Member

If we have found a place for this in Haven, I could build such a crafting guide.

If we have found a place for this in Haven, I could build such a crafting guide.
Member

If we have found a place for this in Haven, I could build such a crafting guide.

probably it'd be best to build it as a sub-level of the advanced tutorial. Alias, any opinion?

> If we have found a place for this in Haven, I could build such a crafting guide. probably it'd be best to build it as a sub-level of the advanced tutorial. Alias, any opinion?

Sounds most reasonable as a second basement of the advanced tutorial. There's enough space.

Sounds most reasonable as a second basement of the advanced tutorial. There's enough space.
Member

Sounds most reasonable as a second basement of the advanced tutorial. There's enough space.

I will remind you in the game.

> Sounds most reasonable as a second basement of the advanced tutorial. There's enough space. I will remind you in the game.
Member

Some tutorial for that alphabet mod is in the public mine now. Just use the tunnel from the portal (with the npc) to the east.

We had previously looked for another place in Haven, but did not find it yet. If something comes up, it can always move.

Now that I've looked into the recipes a bit, I've come to the conclusion that the recipe for the space shouldn't be changed. It fits perfectly logically into the existing system.

Some tutorial for that alphabet mod is in the public mine now. Just use the tunnel from the portal (with the npc) to the east. We had previously looked for another place in Haven, but did not find it yet. If something comes up, it can always move. Now that I've looked into the recipes a bit, I've come to the conclusion that the recipe for the space shouldn't be changed. It fits perfectly logically into the existing system.
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