Bla reports: [overall] rethink your decisio ... #3037

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yourland-report · 2022-11-13T22:30:15Z

yourland-report commented

2022-11-13 22:30:15 +00:00

Bla reports a bug:

[overall] rethink your decision process about changing stuff, alot of the latest ones are adding nothing except making stuff harder/more complicated to do often and combined with breaking existing stuff(new ladder behaviour, time spend to find the cucina plants which is now a waste of time because aliased to farming). often just done without any discussion(unused discord #vote-on-a-topic) or not really thought through

Player position:

{
	x = 2095.1999511719,
	y = 2.5,
	z = 1168.9139404297
}

Player look:

{
	x = -0.59925067424774,
	y = -0.19936792552471,
	z = 0.77533930540085
}

Player information:

{
	avg_jitter = 0.0010000001639128,
	connection_uptime = 1304,
	serialization_version = 29,
	patch = 0,
	state = "Active",
	protocol_version = 41,
	major = 5,
	max_rtt = 0.86900001764297,
	version_string = "5.7.0-dev-ec778508d-dirty",
	minor = 7,
	formspec_version = 6,
	lang_code = "",
	ip_version = 6,
	min_rtt = 0.023000000044703,
	avg_rtt = 0.024000000208616,
	min_jitter = 0,
	max_jitter = 0.84400004148483
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.66187e+09",
		["ocean_build.forbidden"] = "true",
		["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "12",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(1038,15,1987)",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1635266646",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1668377358",
		digged_nodes = "1751870",
		placed_nodes = "654050",
		died = "101",
		hud_state = "on",
		crafted = "31362",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		partychat = "party",
		inflicted_damage = "2776326",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death_portal\"] = 1663192717, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = 797, [\"x\"] = 2400, [\"y\"] = 29607}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1635970005}",
		xp = "2071703",
		played_time = "10060427",
		["stamina:level"] = "18",
		repellant = "0",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "327",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "112.5",
		punch_count = "141590",
		ui_waypoints = "{\"data\":[{\"active\":false,\"color\":2.0,\"display_pos\":true,\"world_pos\":{\"x\":-448.0,\"y\":25.0,\"z\":1341.0}},{\"active\":false,\"world_pos\":{\"x\":-447.0,\"y\":25.0,\"z\":1344.0}}],\"selected\":1.0}",
		jointime = "1635266646",
		bitten = "0",
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 11220\", \"3d_armor:helmet_crystal 1 14300\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 14300\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 14300\", \"shields:shield_crystal 1 14300\", \"\"}",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\"}"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = 5adTx2l0hzcJ4nlQrRCliCk8nsqPuG90

Profiler save:

profile-20221113T223015.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.6.1-yl | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 7h 14min 47s | max lag: 3.65s | clients (26/42): a_happy_chick, AliasAlreadyTaken, Antrica, Bailiff, Bla, Boot, Chache, ecki, Empempires, Fishy22, flux, flux_testing, fur, Gooey_Honey, Kalek, leon1, niceride, Papi, Parrish, Peakachew, rabenkind, rheo, Service, shanish, sherkhan30452, Stelio

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz 2095 3 1169

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction 5adTx2l0hzcJ4nlQrRCliCk8nsqPuG90 D2691E 2095 3 1169

Bla reports a bug: > [overall] rethink your decision process about changing stuff, alot of the latest ones are adding nothing except making stuff harder/more complicated to do often and combined with breaking existing stuff(new ladder behaviour, time spend to find the cucina plants which is now a waste of time because aliased to farming). often just done without any discussion(unused discord #vote-on-a-topic) or not really thought through Player position: ``` { x = 2095.1999511719, y = 2.5, z = 1168.9139404297 } ``` Player look: ``` { x = -0.59925067424774, y = -0.19936792552471, z = 0.77533930540085 } ``` Player information: ``` { avg_jitter = 0.0010000001639128, connection_uptime = 1304, serialization_version = 29, patch = 0, state = "Active", protocol_version = 41, major = 5, max_rtt = 0.86900001764297, version_string = "5.7.0-dev-ec778508d-dirty", minor = 7, formspec_version = 6, lang_code = "", ip_version = 6, min_rtt = 0.023000000044703, avg_rtt = 0.024000000208616, min_jitter = 0, max_jitter = 0.84400004148483 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { ["ocean_build.last_warning"] = "1.66187e+09", ["ocean_build.forbidden"] = "true", ["ocean_build.ocean_built"] = "12", ["signslib:pos"] = "(1038,15,1987)", yl_commons_player_created = "1635266646", yl_commons_player_joined = "1668377358", digged_nodes = "1751870", placed_nodes = "654050", died = "101", hud_state = "on", crafted = "31362", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", partychat = "party", inflicted_damage = "2776326", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death_portal\"] = 1663192717, [\"last_death\"] = {[\"z\"] = 797, [\"x\"] = 2400, [\"y\"] = 29607}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1635970005}", xp = "2071703", played_time = "10060427", ["stamina:level"] = "18", repellant = "0", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", yl_commons_thankyou = "327", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "112.5", punch_count = "141590", ui_waypoints = "{\"data\":[{\"active\":false,\"color\":2.0,\"display_pos\":true,\"world_pos\":{\"x\":-448.0,\"y\":25.0,\"z\":1341.0}},{\"active\":false,\"world_pos\":{\"x\":-447.0,\"y\":25.0,\"z\":1344.0}}],\"selected\":1.0}", jointime = "1635266646", bitten = "0", ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 11220\", \"3d_armor:helmet_crystal 1 14300\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 14300\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 14300\", \"shields:shield_crystal 1 14300\", \"\"}", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\", \"water_life:croc_bag\"}" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = 5adTx2l0hzcJ4nlQrRCliCk8nsqPuG90 ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20221113T223015.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.6.1-yl | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 7h 14min 47s | max lag: 3.65s | clients (26/42): a_happy_chick, AliasAlreadyTaken, Antrica, Bailiff, Bla, Boot, Chache, ecki, Empempires, Fishy22, flux, flux_testing, fur, Gooey_Honey, Kalek, leon1, niceride, Papi, Parrish, Peakachew, rabenkind, rheo, Service, shanish, sherkhan30452, Stelio ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz 2095 3 1169 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction 5adTx2l0hzcJ4nlQrRCliCk8nsqPuG90 D2691E 2095 3 1169 ```

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AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2022-11-13 22:30:15 +00:00

niceride commented

2022-11-13 22:45:28 +00:00

The ladder changes break existing builds and aren't consistent between 2d and 3d. Goes against the "principle of least surprise". I think a change is needed but this doesn't improve anything and is just more confusing.