Lupercus reports: this sign is misleading on the ... #2081

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yourland-report · 2022-06-15T16:19:45Z

yourland-report commented

2022-06-15 16:19:45 +00:00

Lupercus reports a bug:

this sign is misleading on the connection between actual staff members and guides/officers and should be removed, there is also a book inside claiming a connection between officers, guides (non-staff) and baillifs (actual staff)

Player position:

{
	y = 102.56199645996,
	x = -1457.5369873047,
	z = -3473.580078125
}

Player look:

{
	y = -0.16160382330418,
	x = 0.9854394197464,
	z = 0.052852295339108
}

Player information:

{
	min_rtt = 0.13699999451637,
	max_rtt = 4.0859999656677,
	connection_uptime = 1715,
	max_jitter = 3.8770000934601,
	minor = 5,
	major = 5,
	ip_version = 6,
	formspec_version = 5,
	patch = 0,
	protocol_version = 40,
	serialization_version = 29,
	lang_code = "",
	version_string = "5.5.0",
	avg_rtt = 0.19099999964237,
	state = "Active",
	avg_jitter = 0.052000001072884,
	min_jitter = 0
}

Player meta:

{
	fields = {
		["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:helmet_crystal 1 500\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 500\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 500\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 500\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 200\", \"\"}",
		["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "19",
		yl_commons_thankyou = "203",
		yl_commons_player_joined = "1655308293",
		["stamina:exhaustion"] = "39",
		["signslib:pos"] = "(-7724,7,-9721)",
		digged_nodes = "413139",
		died = "132",
		["stamina:poisoned"] = "no",
		bitten = "0",
		["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}",
		partychat = "party",
		["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"jump\"] = 1.2000000476837158, [\"speed\"] = 1.2000000476837158, [\"gravity\"] = 1}",
		["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1",
		yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"y\"] = -301, [\"x\"] = 6026, [\"z\"] = 5762}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1637997854, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1655198344}",
		xp = "423307",
		["stamina:level"] = "18",
		punch_count = "58537",
		arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0",
		inflicted_damage = "1106556",
		crafted = "135107",
		["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "4",
		played_time = "5536123",
		["petz:werewolf"] = "1",
		placed_nodes = "99470",
		hud_state = "on",
		repellant = "0",
		yl_commons_player_created = "1608637365"
	}
}

Log identifier


[MOD] yl_report log identifier = DksfLboWxOgOmSMYo3oLJi8yPVzXh7Q1

Profiler save:

profile-20220615T181945.json_prettyEE

Status:

# Server: version: 5.5.1-yl | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 29min 44s | max lag: 2.66s | clients: -Jules-, celestial, digdeep, Bailiff, kinzie225, tour, Lupercus, pitman, XeN, Alex1977, flux, Chache, Schrankieee, rohit, Annuu, Boot

Teleport command:

/teleport xyz -1458 103 -3474

Compass command:

/give_compass Construction DksfLboWxOgOmSMYo3oLJi8yPVzXh7Q1 D2691E -1458 103 -3474

Lupercus reports a bug: > this sign is misleading on the connection between actual staff members and guides/officers and should be removed, there is also a book inside claiming a connection between officers, guides (non-staff) and baillifs (actual staff) Player position: ``` { y = 102.56199645996, x = -1457.5369873047, z = -3473.580078125 } ``` Player look: ``` { y = -0.16160382330418, x = 0.9854394197464, z = 0.052852295339108 } ``` Player information: ``` { min_rtt = 0.13699999451637, max_rtt = 4.0859999656677, connection_uptime = 1715, max_jitter = 3.8770000934601, minor = 5, major = 5, ip_version = 6, formspec_version = 5, patch = 0, protocol_version = 40, serialization_version = 29, lang_code = "", version_string = "5.5.0", avg_rtt = 0.19099999964237, state = "Active", avg_jitter = 0.052000001072884, min_jitter = 0 } ``` Player meta: ``` { fields = { ["3d_armor_inventory"] = "return {\"3d_armor:helmet_crystal 1 500\", \"3d_armor:chestplate_crystal 1 500\", \"3d_armor:leggings_crystal 1 500\", \"3d_armor:boots_crystal 1 500\", \"shields:shield_rainbow 1 200\", \"\"}", ["petz:werewolf_vignette_id"] = "19", yl_commons_thankyou = "203", yl_commons_player_joined = "1655308293", ["stamina:exhaustion"] = "39", ["signslib:pos"] = "(-7724,7,-9721)", digged_nodes = "413139", died = "132", ["stamina:poisoned"] = "no", bitten = "0", ["unified_inventory:bags"] = "return {\"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\", \"unified_inventory:bag_large\"}", partychat = "party", ["petz:old_override_table"] = "return {[\"new_move\"] = true, [\"sneak\"] = true, [\"sneak_glitch\"] = false, [\"jump\"] = 1.2000000476837158, [\"speed\"] = 1.2000000476837158, [\"gravity\"] = 1}", ["petz:lycanthropy"] = "1", yl_church = "return {[\"last_death\"] = {[\"y\"] = -301, [\"x\"] = 6026, [\"z\"] = 5762}, [\"last_heal\"] = 1637997854, [\"last_death_portal\"] = 1655198344}", xp = "423307", ["stamina:level"] = "18", punch_count = "58537", arenalib_infobox_arenaID = "0", inflicted_damage = "1106556", crafted = "135107", ["petz:werewolf_clan_idx"] = "4", played_time = "5536123", ["petz:werewolf"] = "1", placed_nodes = "99470", hud_state = "on", repellant = "0", yl_commons_player_created = "1608637365" } } ``` Log identifier ``` [MOD] yl_report log identifier = DksfLboWxOgOmSMYo3oLJi8yPVzXh7Q1 ``` Profiler save: ``` profile-20220615T181945.json_prettyEE ``` Status: ``` # Server: version: 5.5.1-yl | game: Minetest Game | uptime: 29min 44s | max lag: 2.66s | clients: -Jules-, celestial, digdeep, Bailiff, kinzie225, tour, Lupercus, pitman, XeN, Alex1977, flux, Chache, Schrankieee, rohit, Annuu, Boot ``` Teleport command: ``` /teleport xyz -1458 103 -3474 ``` Compass command: ``` /give_compass Construction DksfLboWxOgOmSMYo3oLJi8yPVzXh7Q1 D2691E -1458 103 -3474 ```

AliasAlreadyTaken was assigned by yourland-report

2022-06-15 16:19:45 +00:00

flux added the

3. source/ingame

1. kind/protocol

labels 2022-06-15 16:22:56 +00:00

flux commented

2022-06-16 02:59:00 +00:00

i personally don't like random players asserting that they're "basically staff" and think we should squash this one way or another.

on the other hand, i don't think the "officers" group has ever done anything bad, and it's always nice to have more players offering to help new users.

i personally don't like random players asserting that they're "basically staff" and think we should squash this one way or another. on the other hand, i don't think the "officers" group has ever done anything bad, and it's always nice to have more players offering to help new users.

AliasAlreadyTaken commented

2022-06-17 23:27:35 +00:00

When the officers formed, I told the then-initiator mad-dog86, that they must make it clear they are not staff, affiliated with staff or in any other way hold official capacities.

The official helpers/moderators are bailiffs. Some of them have applied for bailiff, but for whatever reason the people of yourland did not choose them for office.

The idea behind yourland is to have people govern themselves. They have a say in who holds office and who doesn't. staff is meant purely for the inevitable technical maintenance.

So, what do we do with this issue? I'll talk to the leader of the officers, to make it extra clear and that as soon as someone thinks they are staff, affiliated or otherwise, they need to change what gives this impression.

When the officers formed, I told the then-initiator mad-dog86, that they must make it clear they are not staff, affiliated with staff or in any other way hold official capacities. The official helpers/moderators are bailiffs. Some of them have applied for bailiff, but for whatever reason the people of yourland did not choose them for office. The idea behind yourland is to have people govern themselves. They have a say in who holds office and who doesn't. staff is meant purely for the inevitable technical maintenance. So, what do we do with this issue? I'll talk to the leader of the officers, to make it extra clear and that as soon as someone thinks they are staff, affiliated or otherwise, they need to change what gives this impression.

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flux commented

2022-10-01 02:58:11 +00:00

maddog86 gave control of the OFFICERS party to paneg. paneg has worked to fix all instances where OFFICERS appeared to claim they were staff or staff-like. this sign is gone. closing.

flux closed this issue

2022-10-01 02:58:12 +00:00

flux added the

5. result/fixed

label 2022-10-01 02:58:17 +00:00

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